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Metazug

Wiipals Gym Leader
Togekiss@King's Rock
Serene Grace
Calm//252 Sp Atk//252 Sp Def//4 HP
Thunderwave
Airslash
Aurasphere
Nasty Plot/Roost
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Heracross@Toxic Orb/Flame Orb
Guts
Jolly//252 Atk//252 Spd//4 Def
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Megahorn
Swords Dance/Bulk Up
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Bastiodon@???
Sturdy
Bold//252 Def//252 Sp Def//4 HP
Stealth Rock
Toxic
Metal Burst
Block

or

Dusknoir@lax incense/leftovers
Pressure
Impish//252 Def//252 Sp Def//4 Atk
Pain Split
Will-o-whisp
Shadow Punch
Confuse Ray

or

Tangrowth@Leftovers/Wide Lens/???
Chloropyll
Bold//252 Def//252 Speed//4 Atk
Leech Seed
Power Whip
Sunny Day
Knock off/Poison Jab
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Starmie@???
Natural Cure
Modest/Timid//252 Sp Atk//252 Spd//4 Sp Def
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rapid Spin
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Charizard@Wide Lens/???
Blaze
Modest/Timid//252 Sp. Atk//252 Spd//4 Sp Def
Air Slash
Heat Wave
Flamethrower
Focus Blast

or

Charizard@Leftovers
Blaze
Adamant//252 Atk//252 Spd//4 Sp. Def
Flareblitz
EQ/Shadow Claw/Dragon Claw/Aerial Ace
EQ/Shadow Claw/Dragon Claw/Aerial Ace
Dragon Dance
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Electivire@Wide Lens/Expert Belt
Motor Drive
Adamant//252 Atk//252 Spd//4 Sp. Def
Thunderpunch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
EQ

I have Togekiss to provide paralysis support for Heracross, because of its mediocre speed stat. And Electivire is there to absorb any electric attacks aimed at my Starmie, Charizard or Togekiss and then it can sweep. I thought Probopass would be a nice mixed wall/support with its defensive stats, but Dusknoir could replace it and be an annoyer/tank sorta thing. I can't decide with Charizard to use, but I'm leaning towards the physical one, as it can boost its speed and EQ is a formidable defense against rock types, plus this set is more uncommon than the special sweeper set.

I especially need help with the Probopass set. :?

What do you guys think? Any input would be appreciated, thanks. :)
 
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Modest/Timid for sweeping 'Kiss.king's rock doesnt effect air slash since it already has its own effect(its true, they cant have an effect for it to work), so run leftovers, so it can last longer.

Night Slash/Pursuit on Hera's last slot.Muscle/Choice Band or Choice Scarf....flame orb works too(different strategy)

Probopass
Bold/Calm
Thunderbolt
Earth Power
Thunderwave
magnet Rise/Stealth Rock
Im not sure if this is any good....:P

Dusknoir
Impish/Careful
Shadow sneak/Punch
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
EQ/Elemental Punch

Rapid spin works on starmie....i prefer grass knot.

dragon Pulse/overheat over Flamethrower or Heat Wave. choice specs/scarf work here.

EQ and AA on your physical set i guess.life orb, or muscle band.

electivire is fine.
 
Shinobi_Pachirisu said:
Modest/Timid for sweeping 'Kiss.king's rock doesnt effect air slash since it already has its own effect(its true, they cant have an effect for it to work), so run leftovers, so it can last longer.

Night Slash/Pursuit on Hera's last slot.Muscle/Choice Band or Choice Scarf....flame orb works too(different strategy)

Probopass
Bold/Calm
Thunderbolt
Earth Power
Thunderwave
magnet Rise/Stealth Rock
Im not sure if this is any good....:P

Dusknoir
Impish/Careful
Shadow sneak/Punch
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
EQ/Elemental Punch

Rapid spin works on starmie....i prefer grass knot.

dragon Pulse/overheat over Flamethrower or Heat Wave. choice specs/scarf work here.

EQ and AA on your physical set i guess.life orb, or muscle band.

electivire is fine.
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It says in the attackdex DP, here on serebii that it works with air slash... I'm going for more of a special tank, thus the EV spread.

Idk, I think heracross would benefit nicely from the attack boost, but i got the same comment on Marriland. I just found out that flame orb cancels out guts, so what is that other strat?

Probopass is more of a mixed wall/support than a tank. I have it as Bold because Togekiss is going to be calm.I might go..
ThunderWave
FlashCannon
Stealthrock
Swagger

WOuld probopass be better than Dusknoir for my team? I was going for a Tank/Annoyer on Dusknoir.

Why grassknot on starmie? Tbolt and Surf cover those types.

Why Overheat over Heatwave or Flamethrower? It lowers Sp Atk... Which set should I use? Physical or Special?
 
if it was a special tank it would have a moveset similar to that of a special tank(ah la wish and such). otherwise, i think serene grace gives a nice enough boost that even if kings rock worked, it wouldnt be needed.

guts actually cancels out flame orb i think. toxic orb's added damage is worse.

i think dusknoir would be better...and flash cannon is only good on magnezone and like one other pkmn(that i cant remember...not great enough on emp to mention).

Swampert, Quagsire, Wiscash, lanturn, and Gastrodon say hi to t bolt and surf. grass knot kills their faces.

I prefer special charizard choice specsing. i said Dragon Pulse OR overheat over heat wave of flamethrower. dragon pulse is probably better(so is heat wave compared to flamethrower), but overheat can OHKO any real nuisances before a switch(when you switch your attk changes revert).
 
For a restoration move I have roost, i suppose i could put wish instead.

EDIT: Actually just found out that guts negates the burn effect, you're right, I just had conflicting answers.

Why would flashcannon not be good on Probopass? Maybe I'll replace him with a Tangrowth

Oh, okay, so Grassknot would work better, I'm just worried against another starmie or something.
 
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roost works too(i forgot about it)

Like i said, I THINK GUTS CANCELS BURN'S EFFECT.

steel isnt a very good offensive type. Probopass gets Earth Power, to kill rocks(and more of course) and it walls ice, so it really doesnt need steel STAB.

Rapid Spinner Starmie is fine, i just prefer sweeper starmie.
 
on serebii it said that waterfall and air salsh allow kings Rock and that headbutt,bite,rockslide don't affect by kings rock. can someone explain this?
 
Starmie:
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic

Probopass
Flash cannon
Earth Power
Magnet Ball
Rock Polish
 
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