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pidgeotto

The Wish Maker
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Gyarados@Leftovers
Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk), 212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Taunt

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Heatran@Choice Scarf/ Choice Specs
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef), 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 Def.
- Earth Power
- Dragon Pulse
- Overheat
- Explosion

Not very sure about the EV's here. Guess it depends on whether you use CScarf or CSpecs. Any help would be appreciated. And: I can't get
HP [electric] on him.

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Cresselia@Leftovers
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk), 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
- Reflect
- Ice Beam
- Charge Beam
- Moonlight

Ment to be used as a physical wall and team support. I've been hesitating a lot when it comes down to Cress, and I've got very little experiece using her, so please help.

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Azelf@Life Orb
Timid (+Spe, -Atk), 36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Spe
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot

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Snorlax@Leftovers
Careful (+SDef, -SAtk), 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Atk
- Body Slam/ Brick Break
- Crunch
- Curse
- Rest

Curselax. My special tank. I was wondering maybe BB for coverage, but BS is nice too.

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Salamence@Life Orb
Mild (+SAtk,-Def), 120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
- Brick Break
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Roost


If someone think they've seen this team posted before, they're correct, but now with some minor changes. I thought maybe some experienced and competent raters who wasn't very active last time I posted, could be nice to give me some advice in the right direction.
 
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I'd go for Special Salamence if I were you. Otherwise you got two Dragon Dancers with more or less the same attacks on that team.

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Timid / Modest
252SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
 
Cerulean21 said:
I'd go for Special Salamence if I were you. Otherwise you got two Dragon Dancers with more or less the same attacks on that team.

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Timid / Modest
252SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
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Thank you, maybe you've got a point. But should I lead with SpecsMence then? MixMence is maybe also an option to take out Blissey easier with Brick Break.I dunno nothing about the damage done from Draco Meteor from SpecsMence contra Brick Break from MixMence on a standard Blissey. Maybe Draco Meteor does the job just as well.
And what about the item and EV's on Heatran?
Should I leave the Cresselia set as it is?
 
Cerulean21 said:
I'd go for Special Salamence if I were you. Otherwise you got two Dragon Dancers with more or less the same attacks on that team.

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Timid / Modest
252SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
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his teams got enough specialness :/
mix could work
nice team

though gyara is the most common lead and their leads to counter him. it still makes a great pokemon to lead with.
 
Yes Mixpert could actually work better. As for Cresselia, I think you should run Charge Beam over Calm Mind and use her as primary a physical wall.
 
Thanks guys. I'll go Charge Beam on Cress and MixMence. If it's something else I should do, let me know. I guess I'll lead with either Heatran or Gyarados. And any help concerning item and EV's on Heatran would be nice.
 
Your Gyara gets walled by any Grass Type.. especially Tangrowth.. I would use Stone Edge over Earthquake.. And good luck with the legends clause that every day is becoming more popular..
 
Rudol Ichiga said:
Your Gyara gets walled by any Grass Type.. especially Tangrowth.. I would use Stone Edge over Earthquake.. And good luck with the legends clause that every day is becoming more popular..
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Is Stone Edge going to help me take out Tangrowth? Wouldn't Ice Fang do the job alot better? Besides, both Salamence and Heatran can safely switch into Tangrowth and OHKO it, and I don't need every pkmn in my team to have a counter- attack for Tangrowth.
 
pidgeotto said:
Is Stone Edge going to help me take out Tangrowth? Wouldn't Ice Fang do the job alot better? Besides, both Salamence and Heatran can safely switch into Tangrowth and OHKO it, and I don't need every pkmn in my team to have a counter- attack for Tangrowth.
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Yap, ye're absolutely right. Besides that, who leads with Tangrowth anyway?
 
me.

ice fang doesnt kill chuck norris by the way.
iirc its a 4hko with 1 dragon dance.

And by then tangrowth has hypnosised it or killed it with Power Whip.
 
nubinator said:
me.

ice fang doesnt kill chuck norris by the way.
iirc its a 4hko with 1 dragon dance.

And by then tangrowth has hypnosised it or killed it with Power Whip.
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Ok, I get it:), but I won't let Gyara try to take out Tangrowth anyway. As mentioned above, Salamence or Heatran does the job alot better.
 
pidgeotto said:
Ok, I'll put Roost over Crunch. Could anyone with some experience with Heatran tell me what to do with him?
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Heatran@Choice Scarf
Modest
252 SAtk / 200 Spd / 58 HP
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-HP [Ice]
-Earth Power
-Dark Pulse
 
MistyLover said:
Heatran@Choice Scarf
Modest
252 SAtk / 200 Spd / 58 HP
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-HP [Ice]
-Earth Power
-Dark Pulse
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Care to explain this

:/
 
Well, then Tangrowth is gonna switch out into his Flash Fire Hp Ground Houndoom:p
 
Well, then Tangrowth is gonna switch out into his Flash Fire Hp Ground Houndoom:p
 
MistyLover said:
Heatran@Choice Scarf
Modest
252 SAtk / 200 Spd / 58 HP
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-HP [Ice]
-Earth Power
-Dark Pulse
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I forgot to mention, but his HP is at such low power, it isn't worth concidering, so forget it.
Am I to run Explosion over HP[something] then?(I don't remember what type).
And why not Overheat, since it's more powerful and acuurate than Fire Blast, and since I'll be switching alot anyway, the SAtk drop won't be much of a problem either. And it would be nice to know, as nubinator mentioned, the reason for the EV spread between HP and Speed.
Is the Scarf set better than the Specs set btw?
 
mix mence shouldn't have roost. it is an attacking pokemon and these are the standard moves

draco meteor
flamethrower/fire blast
brick break
dragon claw/crunch

i use dragon claw but its your team, and for the fire move ive forgotten
 
lugiatamer493 said:
mix mence shouldn't have roost. it is an attacking pokemon and these are the standard moves

draco meteor
flamethrower/fire blast
brick break
dragon claw/crunch

i use dragon claw but its your team, and for the fire move ive forgotten
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Ok, now I'm confused. Sir Lucario says Crunch is suicide on MixMence, but I think I'd rather stick with Explosion if I wanna commit suicide;).
You say Mence is gonna have an attacking move in the last slot, so maybe I'd stick with Crunch for the coverage, after all, but I'm not sure who to listen to anymore...
 
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