Rmt

[ULra]

Line-Up:

Record:
15 / 0 / 4

Total: 0
Win Percentage: 78.95%
Loss Percentage: 21.05%


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Forretress@Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish/252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Def
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Spikes

Forretress was always great at leading for me, so here he is, leading again. His main premise is to set up Toxic Spikes and Spikes to give anything that isn't Levitating or Flying pure hell. He also relieves me of such pain.

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Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold/252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
- Wish
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
- Protect

Bliss provides Wish support and Stealth Rocks. I'm not using Thunder Wave as Toxic Spikes will poison most things. Protect allows for Toxic Damage stall and a free Wish + Lefies recovery, as well as scouting the next move of an opponent.

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Heatran@Choice Scarf
Flash Fire
Modest/4 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd
- Dark Pulse
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Overheat

Sucks up any fire attacks that just happen to fly his way, Scarf allows for outspeeding Timid Gengar, which is the reasoning behind Dark Pulse over Earth Power. HP Grass hits Swamperts that try to wall this. Dragon Pulse is for non-Scarf'd Dragons, Overheat provides a beastly attack that can KO quite a few foes.

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Dragonite@Yache Berry
Inner Focus
Jolly/156 HP, 252 Atk, 100 Spd
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Dragon Claw

I've never actually used Dragonite before and I haven't seen him around, so I chose him over the monotonous Salamence. Dragon claw is there for a decent STAB attack. Thunderpunch hits various bulky waters. Fire Punch is for Steels that will try to stop it. The 100 Speed EVs allow for outspeeding 115 base Pokemon with Speed boosting Natures after one Dragon Dance, namely Starmie; and Scarf'd Garchomp after two.

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Metagross@Leftovers
Sand Veil
Adamant/200 HP, 252 Atk, 56 Spd
- Rock Polish
- Meteor Mash
- Thunderpunch
- Earthquake

Standard Agili-gross, except better, if I am not mistaken. Meteor Mash has STAB will Earthquake handles a wide spectrum of Steel Resists, Thunderpunch hits everything else. 56 Speed allows it to outrun Scarf'd Heatran after one Rock Polish.

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Starmie@Choice Specs
Natural Cure
Timid/4 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Grass Knot

Specstar. Timid outspeeds Jolly and Naive Garchomp and Salamence. Boltbeam for great coverage, Surf for decent stab, and Grass Knot to handle troublesome Water/Ground typings.

 

[Blue Ace]

The leading with a fire weak poke strategy Heatran Switch in is very obvious to most experienced battlers, but eh anyway...

Earth Power provides alot better coverage than Dark Pulse, it already kills Gengar with a superpowerful STAB 210 BP Overheat, where as a super effective Dark Pulse will amount to 160 BP so theres no need for it all

It doesnt matter if Starmie has great coverage if its locked into using only 1 move, I'd say Expert Belt is the better option

 

[Hitsugaya]

Heatran would be better for a lead.

 

[Typo]

Kill Blissey's Stealth Rock, go with Sesmic Toss. Why: Look here:

If you go with your current set, you'll get walled by a Substitute Raikou, who is at the moment setting up Subs and 6 calm minds.

If you go with Sesmic toss only, you get eaten by a gastly. better yet, a duskull with Pain Split.

So, the set should be:

Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
- Wish
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Protect

 

[aipomkong]

I'm not liking the huge Gyarados weakness here. You have two options;

Ditch Explosion on Forry for Zap Cannon, which lets you ruin Gyarados, without having to Explode on it.

or

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
172 HP / 252 Spd / Rest in Satk
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Recover
- Rapid Spin / Ice Beam

Also Earthquake-less Dragonite is =/

- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Thunder

Thunder does more to Skarmory / Physically defencive Milotic then Thunderpunch, and more to Skarmory then a T-punch after a Dragon Dance as well.

Outrage is pretty much the reason why you would use Dragonite > Salamence

 

[ULra]

The leading with a fire weak poke strategy Heatran Switch in is very obvious to most experienced battlers, but eh anyway...

Earth Power provides alot better coverage than Dark Pulse, it already kills Gengar with a superpowerful STAB 210 BP Overheat, where as a super effective Dark Pulse will amount to 160 BP so theres no need for it all

It doesnt matter if Starmie has great coverage if its locked into using only 1 move, I'd say Expert Belt is the better option

Yeah, but that is were I out predict their prediction, they predict a Flash Fire Switchin, using an attack that would OHKO most of them, so I instead swap in Dragonite and more likely than not get a free Dragon Dance.

I forgot to edit this post I guess, this was a really old set on him, I dropped Dark Pulse weeks ago.

Same thing as above, Starmie now has a different item.

Heatran would be better for a lead.

I've tried Heaty leads, they don't work.

Kill Blissey's Stealth Rock, go with Sesmic Toss. Why: Look here:

If you go with your current set, you'll get walled by a Substitute Raikou, who is at the moment setting up Subs and 6 calm minds.

If you go with Sesmic toss only, you get eaten by a gastly. better yet, a duskull with Pain Split.

So, the set should be:

Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
- Wish
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Protect

Why do you assume I am stupid enough to let a Raikou set up 6 CMs? The set has been working fine.

I'm not liking the huge Gyarados weakness here. You have two options;

Ditch Explosion on Forry for Zap Cannon, which lets you ruin Gyarados, without having to Explode on it.

or

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
172 HP / 252 Spd / Rest in Satk
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Recover
- Rapid Spin / Ice Beam

Also Earthquake-less Dragonite is =/

- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Thunder

Thunder does more to Skarmory / Physically defencive Milotic then Thunderpunch, and more to Skarmory then a T-punch after a Dragon Dance as well.

Outrage is pretty much the reason why you would use Dragonite > Salamence

Gyarados doesn't give this team many problems, I can handle him easily.

 

[aipomkong]

Ok but you have a Gyara weakness.

Also Metagross' trait says Sand Veil. Pretty sure that's just a typo though.

 

[manaphylover]

why would he change his blissey it would be a waste of time???
it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get a wish seismic toss blissey

also since heatran is considered a uber(i think) u should go with another flash fire pokemon instead maybe rapidash or sumtin

 

["L"]

The leading with a fire weak poke strategy Heatran Switch in is very obvious to most experienced battlers, but eh anyway...

And his heatran switches into that Heatran. If the opponen'ts heatran is also scarfed, then it has no choice but to leave, and if it isn't it would switch for fear of Earthpower, which I think you should have to get rid of enemy heatran.

Dragonite should be this:

Dragonite @Lum berry
Jolly Nature
EVs: 54 HP / 252 Atk / 204 Spd
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fireblast/Roost

Late game sweeper. Lum berry allows you to not get statused by anything that may wish to hurt you, and also give you a second round of Outrage if you weren't statused. Fireblast for floating steels, or roost if you want health. I prefer getting things like Bronzong and skarm out of the way and use roost. Yache berry is also an option for those Ice Shard revenge killers.

 

[aipomkong]

also since heatran is considered a uber(i think) u should go with another flash fire pokemon instead maybe rapidash or sumtin

Heatran isn't an uber Pokemon. It's a legendary but it's not banned from standard competitive play.