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Tales Fanatic777

Cold as Ice
This is my first competetive OU team, I made it because until now, I was just slapping together some pokes, and they couldnt really do much in OU...


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Jirachi:Timid@Leftovers
Evs: 252 Hp/80 SpA/ 176 Spe
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt

Description: Jirachi can take out a lot of things and with a nice typing it resists quite a few things and due to CM it can still do decent damage to things like Blissey and Snorlax. Jirachi is the basis for my whole team, I didnt choose it for any specific reason other than it's good stats and ability.

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Swampert:Relaxed@Leftovers
Evs: 240 Hp/216 Def/ 52 SpA
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Stealth Rock
Description: Swampert is there to take down Tyrantitar and help against Celebi because Jirachi has trouble with those two, and Swampert can either use Earthquake or Ice Beam respectively to take them down, and due to Swampert's typing he doesnt get damage from Sandstorm, which actually helps him. Celebi is may be trouble if it has Grass Knot, but with a little bit of prediction, I can decide my next move. I put Stealth Rock on it so that I have some extra help from switch ins, and almost stops flying types completely (except maybe Skarmory)


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Weavile:Jolly@Choice band
Evs: 40 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 216 Spe
-Pursuit
-Ice Shard
-Brick Break
-Night Slash
Description: Weavile is on my team to help against Celebi mostly, since Swampert and Jirachi both have some trouble with it. This can also help with other Grass or Psychic types which my other pokemon can handle, but don't have a type advantage against and Weavile does so it can take out them, and dragons as well.

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Rotom:Bold@Leftovers
Evs: 252 Hp/168 Def/88 Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power (Fire 70)
-Will-o-Wisp
Description: Due to Weavile's large amount of counters such as Scizor, Heatran, Metagross, and Gyarados... I have chosen Rotom because of his access to Hidden Power Fire he can take out almost all of those Steel types. and Gyarados is taken down by Thunderbolt. I chose Thunderbolt over Discharge because I prefer the power. Will-o-Wisp is to help stop things like Tyrantitar. I chose Rotom over any other pokemon because it can also spin block which helps keep in Stealth Rock from Swampert.


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Hariyama:Impish@Leftovers-Thick Fat
Evs: 80 Hp/172 Atk/252 Def/4 Spe
-Force palm
-Ice Punch
-Whirlwind
-Knock Off
Description: Hariyama is used to stop Snorlax and Blissey because until then, I could do some damage to them, but nothing very strong, especially against a Curselax, who even Weavile can't take down. I chose to put on whirlwind so that he can get rid of other things that could be a potential threat, and it brings things in for more Stealth Rock damage

OR


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Heracross:Jolly@Choice Scarf
Evs: 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
-Megahorn
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash
Description: This does the same thing as Hariyama, I'm just having trouble choosing between them with Close Combat it can easily take out both Snorlax and Blissey. It can't whirlwind or damage Flying types like Hariyama can, but it can also help greatly against Celebi with Megahorn.

The last Pokemon I don't know, and I'm having trouble deciding... I know I want it to be a Special Wall, maybe Cresselia or Defensive CM latias... I need some help with that.... i'm open to any and ALL suggestions, I want you guys to pick Heracross OR hariyama, whichever one you guys think is best. Please, PLEASE help me with the last poke.... oh, and I was wondering if Weavile should be a lead.. or what... that or Jirachi... or maybe you have a better idea? anyway, now i'm ranting... please
RMT
 
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There's no point for Hariyama if you have a Weavile so just go with Heracross and you'll have a Bug attack. Why don't you just make your Rotom a Heat Rotom and get Overheat and better stats? Try to get a Pokemon with a Flying or a Grass attack. From your team so far, you'll get walled by Gastrodon and Ludicolo.
 
elephantdog said:
There's no point for Hariyama if you have a Weavile so just go with Heracross and you'll have a Bug attack. Why don't you just make your Rotom a Heat Rotom and get Overheat and better stats? Try to get a Pokemon with a Flying or a Grass attack. From your team so far, you'll get walled by Gastrodon and Ludicolo.
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I'm not going to rate... but Megahorn OHKO's Ludicolo if I'm correct, so he isn't completely walled.

Also OP, I don't know why you don't think Heracross can damage Ice-types... it has Close Combat.
 
well, I did want Heat Rotom, that was my original thing, but I didnt want to get banned or whatever for AR talk stuff.... and a Bug attack takes care of Ludicolo, but as for Gastrodon... thats one good reason why I need help choosing a Special wall

@Ampy, that was a typo... I meant to say Flying types
 
I don't know why you're worrying about Gastradon... Swampert is a much bigger threat. It may not have instant recovery but how many Gastradons do you see anyways?
 
well not specifically Gastordon... but something Like Swampert... and I don't know what Special Wall I shoould use... and yeah, I kinda need a Grass attack
 
Sorry, I totally had a brain fart and forgot Grass is weak to Bug. If you do a lot of double battles like me you'll see a good number of Gastrodons. Gastrodon is a Ground-type that is a special attacker. That's what separates him for the other Water/Grounds.
 
ScarfMie could be a good idea I guess...

Starmie@Choice Scarf
Timid/Modest Nature
EVs: 4 HP/252 SpA/252 Sp
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Thunderbolt

Straight off Smogon :)
 
I'm looking for something almost entirely Defensively geared... like maybe a Dual Screen latias... if it were to work... but thats what I need you guys for
 
Shining Latios said:
Psychic works better than Grass Knot imo.
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Psychic does more damage because it gets STAB but Grass Knot is to fight off Starmie's weaknesses so it's pretty much the user's choice.
 
Shining Latios said:
Psychic works better than Grass Knot imo.
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.... Yeah, because this team isn't destroyed by Swampert/Gastradon :/

Grass Knot is a better option for this team IMO. Pyschic has bad coverage and even though it will be stronger if it's Normally effective, he has nothing to help with his Swampert/Gastradon weakness like I said before. I do agree that Pyschic usually works better, but for this team GK is better IMO.
 
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Oh yes that is true. Psychic only destroys Fighting and Poison. Sorry bout that you were right. Oh and on Rotom Timid works better than Bold for sure.
 
Ampy said:
.... Yeah, because this team isn't destroyed by Swampert/Gastradon :/

Grass Knot is a better option for this team IMO. Pyschic has bad coverage and even though it will be stronger if it's Normally effective, he has nothing to help with his Swampert/Gastradon weakness like I said before
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That's true. Swampert's high attack and Gastrodon's high special attack can really rip through teams, especially when Trick Room is active.
 
well, Rotom isn't really a sweeper here, more af a cover... he's just there to spin block and take care of the counters to Weavile... and would an Improvised Dual Screen with Light Screen, Reflect, Psychic, and Grass Knot work?
 
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