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AshramVII

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This is an idea I've been putting together that incorporates some of my favorite pokemon, but I am aware that it is quite weak against three things. (one big one - Fight types) As such, any suggestions, switches, etc. are welcome!

SLOWKING @ Leftovers
Modest
252 Sp. Def. / 252 Sp. Att. / 4 HP

Psychic / Surf
Nasty Plot
Ice Beam / Flamethrower / Shadow Ball
Trick Room

SNORLAX @ Leftovers / Chesto Berry
Adamant
180 Sp. Def / 252 Def. / 78 Att.
Thick Fat

Body Slam
Crunch
Curse
Rest

WEEZING @ ????
Relaxed / Impish
248 Def. / 252 HP / 8 Sp. Def.
Levitate

Sludge Bomb
Explosion
Will-o-Wisp
Protect / Double Team

UMBREON @ Leftovers
Relaxed
220 Sp. Def. / 56 Def. / 232 HP
Synchronize

Mean Look
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Wish

EMPOLEON @ ????
Modest
44 Sp. Att. / 248 Sp. Def. / 216 HP
Torrent

Surf
Stealth Rock
Ice Beam
Grass Knot / Flash Cannon / Protect

SPIRITOMB @ ????
Relaxed
232 Def. / 224 Sp. Att. / 52 HP
Pressure

Ominous Wind
Dark Pulse
Rest / Silver Wind / Protect / Psychic
Sleep Talk / Silver Wind / Protect / Psychic
 
Replace Confuse Ray with Baton Pass. You can pass Mean Look to a sweeper and own your enemy without the fear of them switching out.

Use Relaxed on Weezing, because Impish will make its Sludge Bomb weaker.
 
Iron Thorn said:
Replace Confuse Ray with Baton Pass. You can pass Mean Look to a sweeper and own your enemy without the fear of them switching out.

Use Relaxed on Weezing, because Impish will make its Sludge Bomb weaker.
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I considered Confuse Ray just in case I wanted to keep Umbreon around to Tank after Mean Look-ing. I do like Baton Pass though ... choices, choices ...
 
Confuse Ray will bite you in the butt more often, if only because of pedantic folks screaming OMGHAX.
 
You can, but a Pokemon could very well manage to attack successfully through all the turns of the confusion, and the confusion may wear off the very next turn.
 
Thanks to Iron Thorn for input!

Still looking for some more suggestions though ...
 
Grass knot or yawn on the last slot for empoleon.

Surf and psychic for slowking.

I love how you say you have a fighting weak, but you have one immunity, and two resistances. Drop umbreon though, he can't really do anything in DP. He dies too easily to close combat that's on a huge amount of physical attackers.

Snorlax needs sleep talk over curse. You just can't afford to let anything sleep for two turns this gen.

Spiritomb@leftovers
Bold
Calm Mind
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Dark Pulse

Weezing needs flamethrower or thunderbolt over sludge bomb and pain split over protect.
 
aquasuicune said:
Grass knot or yawn on the last slot for empoleon.
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So pseudo-hazing vs. more type coverage ... hmm ...

aquasuicune said:
Surf and psychic for slowking.
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I kind of agree with this since it allows me to hit anything for neutral damage (a Nasty Plot or two just makes it a more balanced answer) but I'm wondering how Psychic and Flamethrower would fair, since it gives KING an advantage over HERACROSS and Steel types.

aquasuicune said:
I love how you say you have a fighting weak, but you have one immunity, and two resistances. Drop umbreon though, he can't really do anything in DP. He dies too easily to close combat that's on a huge amount of physical attackers.
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I've been noticing that, but I'm not sure how I want to replace him. He's been so versatile for me and slowly eats by his lonesome. What's your suggestion for a good annoyer?

aquasuicune said:
Snorlax needs sleep talk over curse. You just can't afford to let anything sleep for two turns this gen.
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Sleep Talk does give him great survivability, but after a Curse or two, he's rockin' pretty hard for me. I'll mess with both and see what I like more. :3

aquasuicune said:
Spiritomb@leftovers
Bold
Calm Mind
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Dark Pulse
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I don't know ... I just like the idea of him having two moves that can raise all his stats. (and I have no idea how Sleep Talk / Rest would work/not work with that ... so I may try it out and see) Pain Split though, is definitely worth a look!

aquasuicune said:
Weezing needs flamethrower or thunderbolt over sludge bomb and pain split over protect.
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Oh, that's just nasty! I love it.
 
Alakazam could predict and come in when snorlax rests and probably 2HKO or maybe 3HKO with focus blast, which is why you can't afford to just rest. Alazakam also isn't the only one who can do stuff like that. Most tanks can't just rest, heck even suicune has issues with it this gen.

As for a replacement for umbreon, annoyers just don't work. Go with a physical attacker, as you're lacking in that department.
 
How about a slowed down (Trick Room kicker) Gliscor with:
Brave / Adamant
188 Att. / 220 Def. / 100 HP

Swords Dance
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
U-Turn / Night Slash
 
I would say bronzong or something should go over umbreon. Trick room teams almost always need two trick room users, and you have one. Remember that it also only lasts for 5 turns.
 
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