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Suggestions please..?

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platinum09

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I need some help with my team in Platinum putting together some moves.
I don't really want to breed pokemon to get certain natures just for moves that are passed down. I have an:
Empoleon[55]
-a:132/d:117/sa:145/sd:129/s:96
-aqua jet, brine, icebeam, drill peck. Not very pleased with it so.. help, lol. HP is Grass.
Crobat[51]
-a:121/d:95/sa:93/sd:105/s:160
-confuse ray, toxic, torment, air slash.
Houndoom[54]
-a:116/d:83/sa:129/sd:102/s:129
-nasty plot, flamethrower, dark pulse, shadow ball. HP is Water.
Gallade[49]
-a:149/d:74/sa:86/sd:133/s:106
-swords dance, night slash, psycho cut, brick break. HP is Bug.
Manectric[47]
-a:86/d:67/sa:102/sd:74/s:118
-charge beam, crunch, thunderbolt, flamethrower. HP is Rock [idr?]
Ludicolo[63] [[swift swim]]
-a:119/d:92/sa:146/sd:147/s:124
-rain dance, surf, leech seed, energy ball. HP is Bug.

By far Ludicolo is my best pokemon. I'm currently at the Elite 4 [still] and and pretty much leveled Ludicolo there. He's awesome, took out 3 of the 4 trainers with only him. It's my 1st Ludi with swift swim so I still need help.
Anywho, thanks to anyone and everyone who helps.
 
Usually Surf is preferable over Brine. If you really want power, might as well go with Hydro Pump. You can also replace Drill Peck or Ice Beam with Avalanche seeing as your Empoleon is slow.

Gallade also needs Close Combat. Brick Break just won't cut it. Ludicolo is also, I don't know, very mixed. Is it supposed to be a SubSeeder (Substitute + Leech Seed) or a sweeper? Leech Seed is a little slow for a sweeper set and if you are going to be using a Leech Seed you would definitely want a Substitute (especially if you are using Leftovers).

Manectric seems like a special sweeper to me, especially as you are investing in Charge Beam. Try finding another special move to replace Crunch with. It looks a little bit soft to be boosting with Charge Beam though, given that Charge Beam is a chance boost.
 
I had Manectric learn Thunder Wave, Ludicolo now has Rain Dance/Dive/Leech Seed/Double Team, Gallade hasn't reached the level for Close Combat yet, and Empoleon now has Aqua Jet/Surf/Avalanche/HP Grass. Still iffy on Empoleon and Ludicolo though..
 
Ludicolo's SPATK is higher than ATK so Dive seems like a waste since it's a Physical move. You're also going for maximizing Rain so taking two turns to attack is wasting it. And Substitute is usually the best pair for Leech Seed since the life drain allows you to create more substitutes, and the substitutes allow you to block attacks, especially with Ludicolo's resistances.
 
Well it looks better than the one before it. It may not have Rain Dish's HP recovery, but at least the SPEED boost will allow for a faster setup.
 
Going to move this to In-game Team Rate.

Another Ludicolo option is a sweeping option - Swift Swim, with Rain Dance/Surf/Energy Ball/Ice Beam for instance, but really it has a lot of possibilities.
 
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