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Competative Team

Dustero

Master Shiny Breeder
Ok this is what I have so far.

*Shiny Charizard@Leftovers
Hasty
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Flare Blitz
Swords
Earthquake
Rock Slid

*Electrivire@ Lire Orb***
Adamant
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Cross Chop
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Earthquake

Shiny Tyranitar@ Choice Band**
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant
~ Crunch
~ Stone Edge
~ Earthquake
~ Pursuit****

Shiny Salamence@ Choice Specs**
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest
~ Draco Meteor
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Flamethrower
~ ?

*Alakazam@ Choice Specs**
Timid
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
~ Psychic
~ Focus Blast
~ Shadow Ball
~ Trick / Grass Knot

*Lucario@Life Orb***
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Close Combat
~ Swords Dance
~ ExtremeSpeed
~ Stone Edge

* Already fully EV trained
** I have never used this items before, so I'm not sure if they would work well with my playstyle, I rarely switch out. Also I don't have these items, so unless someone can give me them, I'll need different items.
*** I only have one Life Orb, so who should I give it to and what shoud the other item be?
**** I can't teach him this move since he can only learn it from an egg move.
 
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Lots of shinies.

anyway The main problem I see is half your team are choice users, when you should us more than 1, even though you could use 2.

this problem particuarly increaes when you added in the fact that you rarely switch out.

Trust me choise and switch need eachother, your going to have to rethink your strategy.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure I will use choice items. The problem is that I don't have any of them either.

Also what should I make Tyranitar's last move?
 
Ice Beam or Focus Punch. Those are the best two options. You also spelt "Competitive" wrong. I'd change it as it makes your team look bad from the get-go. This team needs a lot of work. Maybe you should lurk more.
 
Woops, my bad. I wasn't paying attention. Also Ice Beam wouldn't work since he is a physical sweeper. I guess Focus Punch would work. Also what else should be changed in my team? I know the items might suck. I'm probably not going to use any Choice items anyways.
 
Just because an overuse of choice items are bad dosen't mean you can't use them at all. They're still good with proper prediction. And ice beam DOES work on tyrannitar. It's a special set. Ice beam is to counter grounds like gliscor and hippowdon who walls you mad. If you're using that set, you gotta tweak the evs though. And as mentioned before by some other posters, i too suggest that you lurk around somemore.
 
You could also go for a support move like Substitute if you want...
 
its cool that Tyranitar is shiny and all but what does it do for your team? Add sandstorm. what if you brought in scizor in its place. it is still strong and can SD, dish out damage then batton pass away. Or you could try a spinner like Donphan because Zard needs it. You pick but not Tar.
 
What do you guys mean by "lurk" around? Also my Tyranitar is a physical sweeper, so I don't think Ice Beam would work well with it's low Sp. Attack. Substitute might be good, but I'm not sure. I could put avalanche on him for an ice move, which should double all of the time because he will usually not attack first. I'm not sure about that though because that will also attack my team. Any other suggestions for a physical attack for the last move slot?
 
Ice Beam should be considered solely because of Gliscor IMO, even with low Sp. Att. It will also hit Dragons pretty hard, suprisingly.
 
What do you guys mean by "lurk" around?

Stop posting and start reading. Your post demonstrates that you lack the basic knowledge of competitive battling. I'd suggest reading the stickies at the top of the forum (particularly the RULES), the DP Battle Guides in the DP BAttles sub forum, and any number of guides over at Smogon.
 
Get it through your head!

i will say this again, Tar does nothing for your team there are pleanty of other sweepers that can do the job, so use them since Tar's ability activates a sandstorm that only lucario resist and hurts everybody else. And by lurk they mean look around before jumping in. go to somebody elses rate my team, but don't rate. Look at it think about it take in their points and what they thought about that you didn't. Take advice from somebody else to somebody else and explain to me 2 things.
1.Why rock slide is spelt rock slid
2.what does each poke in your team do, sometimes it is easy for use to see what you want to do with it by ev spread but make it easier by telling us.
Now for my rate. Shuckle completly destoys you (JK) You have no wall or thought. Are you just going to attack and hope you win? (sorry if this sounds harsh)
 
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Thanks Nolan. I've decided that I'm going to make a completely new team. I might use Electivire, since I think he's pretty good, but pretty much everyone else will be changed. I'm going to lurk around some now. I'm wanting to try out a Mix Ape. Also should I try to breed for IVs or should I just get the nature that I want? I'm not going to use this team in any real competitive battles, I'm only going to use it against friends who all know nothing about EV training and in PBR online.
 
^ That's about the definition of an In-Game team. If you don't care about the EV's, then you'll want to post there
 
I do care about EVs. I was asking if I should spend the time breeding for IVs. I've heard that it takes a while and I've never bred for IVs before, so it would take longer for me.
 
if it's just against noob friends then breed for natures, ev train and don't go crazy over ivs, just 10+ in where you need it and you should win easily.
 
I do care about EVs. I was asking if I should spend the time breeding for IVs. I've heard that it takes a while and I've never bred for IVs before, so it would take longer for me.

My opinion on IVs:

A beneficial nature and access to egg/move tutor moves are going to benefit your team a lot more than IVs and breeding for a certain Hidden Power. IVs and (useful) Hidden Powers are like a nice bonus. If you are playing with friends who want a serious battle with the standard clauses, then perfect IVs aren't necessary. This also mostly goes for smaller Pokemon communities, and gamer groups where Pokemon isn't the dominant subject/theme/thread.

However, in more cutthroat environments such as Smogon's Wi-Fi board, and the posters around here, high IVs and Hidden Power will keep you on an even playing field. Without them, you'll be at an extreme disadvantage. For the users of the DP Battles and the Wi-Fi chat on Serebii.net...I don't know, you could probably do without high IVs and win a good amount, but lose some too.

Trading can also help. But how trading works depends on the environment. For example, I wouldn't expect to find a lot of good IVs in the Trading board on here.
 
Thanks for the advice Random! I've decided not to care a whole lot about IVs this time around thanks to your post. I've completed making up a new team. I'll make a new thread for it. Can you guys please rate it? Tell me any changes that need to be made.
 
Nolan: Good work in spotting the missused Tyranitar. A lot of people do just throw him in cause he has a high attack power.

Remember that IV's and EV's are important, but having a top strategy is far more important, so you should most likely be focusing on exprimenting your technique for now. When you find something that works, and after you get some feedback from many of the reliable sources here and else where, then you should start finding your IV's.
 
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