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Important Team!!

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Dar1818

BF CHAMP!!
Alright, I'm going up against some buds of mine (12 of them). The prize is 600 bucks to the winner (we each put in 50). This team needs to be good. We have a few rules.

1) No Ubers (Raquaza, Mewtwo, Kyogre, Groudon, Jirachi, Celebi, Mew, Lugio, Ho-Oh, Latias, Latios) - we're doing this one a little differently. Each of us was allowed to pick one extra pokemon that wouldn't be allowed. These were the ones picked; Metagross, Salamence, Alakazam, Wubbaffet, Suicune, and Skarmory.
2) No sleep inducing moves, period.
3) No one hit KO's
4) Unlimited Items (more than one lefties per team:P)
5) No accuracy reducing/increasing moves

And that's it. The battles are in three days, so I've got some time. This is what I'm planning on.

WALLS;
Dusclops@leftovers
Careful
Shadow Ball
Seismic Toss
Pain split
Will O Wisp
ev’s 252 hp/164 def/92 Sdef

Regice@lefties
Bold
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rest
Toxic
ev’s 252 hp/148 Def/108 SAtk

SPECIAL SWEEPERS
Starmie@Shell Bell
Modest
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic
ev’s 252 SAtk/252 Spd/4SDef

Gardevoir@lefties
Modest
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Will O Wisp
ev’s 172 hp/136 Def/20 spd/26 SAtk/136 Sdef

PHYSICAL SWEEPER
Heracross@Lefties
Adamant
Swords Dance
Rock Slide
Brick Break
Megahorn
ev’s 252 atk/196 spd/60 SDef

BULKY WATER
Swampert@lefties
Impish
Curse
Earthquake
Rest
Rock Slide
ev’s 252 hp/196 def/60 atk

Thanks for the imput.
 
for starmie include recover>tbolt, or replace with alakazam. willow wisp can also be reflect on gardevior. you might want to replace gardevior with raikou or gengar. prabably raikou 'cause if you don't you've got a huge ghost weakness. I think that's good
 
@Shadow Flame: He can't use Alakazam, so byebye.

And Dar, do you have any good IV's on those? Do you even have them?
You should prolly go with SF's stuff atm.
 
Yeah, well, since I ain't too good in rating teams, and no-one else has written, you are still the best in this thread! Easy.
Also, if you want to, and can, get Gengar over Gardevoir.
Give it this moveset if you want to use it:
Gangar@Leftovers
Modest, Levitate
Ev's: 172 HP, 196 Spd, 140 SpA
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Hypnosis/Psychic

It is pretty good, and you can choose either psychic (for poison, fighting) or hypnosis (which I would choose, but whatever...) on the last slot.
 
Then maybe change it to some kind of Houndoom? A special sweeper doom would be nice against ghosts I think.
 
For Swampert, I'd recommend using this set:

Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
Curse
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Rest

Ice Beam>Rock Slide b/c both cover Flying types, but Ice Beam also destroys the Grass Pokemon that will likely be switched into Swampert.
 
Shadow Flame said:
for starmie include recover>tbolt
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More like Recover over Psychic if anything...
Do you know/suspect any of the pokemon they'll be using? I love how Slaking and Tyranitar aren't banned, while those others are...
 
Surf over Ice beam on Swampert. Dont keep him in against a grass type.
Otherwise I see nothing wrong with it....
 
What... Swampert can still do nice damage with surf...
 
Pika Egg said:
More like Recover over Psychic if anything...
Do you know/suspect any of the pokemon they'll be using? I love how Slaking and Tyranitar aren't banned, while those others are...
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I choose Wubbaffet. I had no control over who else was chosen, but I kinda laughed when I heard. Six of the guys didn't add anyone, that's why there are only six pokemon not allowed. None of the other guys has access to Fire Red or Leaf green, so I'm not worried about T-Tar. Slaking won't be able to do much against Dusclops, so I think I'm fine there.

I'm sort of expecting the typical things. You know, Flygon, Aggron, Blaziken, Swampert, Regice, Registeel, Gyrados and so on. I'm not too worried because only four of the guys know what ev's are. I want to keep Gardevoir because I have perfect IV's for him on SAtk and SDef. The IV's for the others aren't determined yet, with the only exception being Dusclops. He has nothing less than a 21, with 29 is Def and a 27 in SDef, which is pretty good from my point of view.
 
Leithsumbreon#1 said:
Surf over Ice beam on Swampert. Dont keep him in against a grass type.
Otherwise I see nothing wrong with it....
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If you knew that the oppenent had a Grass type, and that he would switch it in on Swampert, you would Ice Beam on the switch for a lot of damage. If it wasn't a KO, then you'd switch out Swampert.
 
The standard Slaking packs Shadow Ball...which will hurt Dusclops quite a bit. Actually a CB Slaking might be able to OHKO half your team with Shadow Ball and the other half with Return...

If you're expecting to face some Regi's, you might want to put Protect on someone (perhaps Swampert or Gardevoir) since other than Dusclops, you have no Explosion protection. Protect would pretty much disable Slaking as well...
 
Wtf, $600?
Dang.

Your problem is that nothing here can switch into Heracross, CB or otherwise.
Heracross enjoys getting Burned and then KOing Dusclops with Gutsed Rock Slide.
Your Psychics all get OKOed by Megahorn on the switch.
If CBed, then it will have max Speed and likely be faster than your own Heracross, defeating it 1 on 1.

Basically, replace Starmie with Weezing for a solid physical wall. Phazing is also good.

Weezing @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 Def
Impish/Relaxed Nature
-Sludge Bomb
-Haze
-Pain Split/Rest
-Wow/Fire Blast

Sweeper Starmie may be good in-game, but in competitive, its only useful as a Rapid Spinner. Sweeping Starmies get walled straight up by special walls and there's nothing it can do about it. Since Skarm is banned, you don't have to worry about the best Spiker in Emerald and therefore, Spinners like Starmie lose their purpose.

Hydro Pump/Ice Beam over Rock Slide on Swampert (with Relaxed nature). If it comes down to Cursepert vs. Cursepert, you'll want a special attack to exploit its lower Sp. Defense.

And for the record, SF, Psychic is Starmie's least useful move and isn't even needed.
 
Why doesn't anyone include Hyper Beam on Slaking. It is deadly and OHKO's
many pokémon. Especially with Choice Band. It doesn't KO Skarmory, Steelix, RegiRock, Registeel, Aggron etc. however. The recharge phase of Hyper Beam is not a concern, he can't attack than anyway because of Truant.
 
The only problem with Slaking doing Hyper Beam is that Slaking won't be able to switch out. Otherwise after doing an attack, Slaking can switched out and it doesn't need to Traunt.
 
yeh, you cant switch out after hyper beam, so they switch in weezing or whatever, and will o wisp you, then pain split, then sludge bomb you to detah. hyper beam sucks on most pokemon.
 
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