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Metagame changes

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deoxys_attack_mode

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Haven't seen a thread on this yet.

In D/P, there is the metagame change, where moves become special moves or physical moves depending on the move rather than the type. Which Pokemon of the 1st-3rd generations do you see as getting better or worse in the 4th generation metagame?

I see the following:

Worse:

Alakazam: The elemental puches are no longer special attacks. They have become a staple on special sweepers, and I think this guy suffers the most.

Sceptile: Leaf Blade and the elemental punches are now physical. This guy's special move movepool just shrunk to the size of a bean.

Scizor: Has to use HP Bug instead of Silver Wind. Not too much of a change, but enough of one to douse many spirits.


Better:

Sneasel: Ice Punch and Faint Attack now use this guy's amazing attack stat and gain STAB.

Gengar: Shadow Ball is now special, but even though he can no longer use the elemental punches as well, he has so many other uses and move options that it really makes no big difference.

Hitmonchan: Elemental punches being physical moves now? Sweet. This guy is now semi-uber.

Groudon: Fire Punch can replace Fire Blast becasue of the Sunny Day boost and Groudon's high attack stat.

Kingler: Crabhammer now uses Kingler's massive attack stat and gains STAB.



What are some other ones you can find?
 
Scizor gets Scissor Cross. It doesn't need HP Bug, especially because all Hidden Powers are now Special. Not many Scizors used Silver Wind anyway.
 
There's a thread about this in the 4th gen competitive section.

However, I don't think Alakazam has got worse, it gets special Shadow Ball/Energy Ball/Focus Bomb to compensate the lose of the punches, of which Fire Punch was the only one widely used.
 
Some pokemon can no longer use Tri Attack to good effect, but Magneton can now
 
I think this has already been discussed before thats why...

Anyways Dragonite/Salamence, Gengar, Blaziken and a whole lot more

Oh and Machamp is better now
 
-Dragonite can now use it's massive attack with outrage, attach a CB to it and nothing will switch in safely

-Ever physical attacker lost HP and Shadow Ball, but we now have elemental punches and some other sweet moves that were once special like pursuit

-Alot of things get stealth rock so skarm doesn't feel left alone in OU. Spinners will now not only be skarm based.
 
Sceptile doesnt need leaf blade now that Energy Ball can replace it.
Alakazam

Psychic
Shadow Ball
Reflect
Focus Bomb

^ Ftwz :D

Scizor had (ZOMG) Scissor Cross now and Iron Head, making it much tougher then before.
 
Sceppy's still usable though. Base 85 Atk stat isn't that bad, and he does have a plethora of physical moves that he could use.

Alakazam always needs Calm Mind, except for Choice Lens set.
 
where is this "lol sceptile sucks because leaf blade/thunderpunch are physical" thing coming from, the main set sceptile even used was Substitute/Leech Seed/Leaf Blade/Hidden Power [Fire/Ice], which from an advance->d/p transition, essentially gained +10 power on the STAB move due to the addition of Energy Ball, and lost nothing.
 
Many people will have to change their attacks when D/P comes out so they can get some new Shinou attacks. My Sceptile being one of these with his all Physical moveset. (Leaf Blade/Dig/Dragon Claw/Aerial Ace) But this will open new opprotunities to allow change from the type based stats to now the specific attack's status, Physical or Special.
 
Sceptile's signature attack being used by Leafia and Erureido.
 
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