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Move Based Predictions

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Torkelia Man

Beginning Trainer
Based on the movesets, here's what I think the starters final types will be:

Naetle: Grass/Dark. Bite and Crunch, but then Ghost would be an odd possibility because of Curse. I'm still thinking dark though.

Hikozaru: Pure fire. It'd be the first one since Typhlosion! It will basically be a fire version of Slaking, but much better.

Pochama: Water/Flying. Drill Peck and Peck make this likely. This would be bad with the new category rules(Special+Physical), as It'll need high attack and sp. attack to make use of both.

PLease comment.
 
Yes, I agree with you, the moveset of those 3 starters determine the types of their evolutions.
 
naetoru owned by both hikozaru and pochama
i want naetles evos to be grass/metal instead
 
Dry Martini is right, Naetle is going to be pwned by Fire and Water starter, and it should be Grass/Rock, so rock moves own fire starter and water if it get flying 2nd type.
 
I'm sure Neatle is going to have something to support it against both the other starters otherwise it would be the first starter to get shafter by both types,lol.

See Rock/Steel would work but at the same time would be odd.

Oh well,I'll still be going with Neatle when I get the game.
 
Torkelia Man said:
Pochama: Water/Flying. Drill Peck and Peck make this likely. This would be bad with the new category rules(Special+Physical), as It'll need high attack and sp. attack to make use of both.

PLease comment.
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Not all water attacks will be special..... waterfall will be physical at least.
 
Grass/Dark, maybe, Grass/Ghost, NO! So you mean it will be Ghost because of curse. Yeah.... Torkoal and the Regis are Ghost-type, too, aren't they?
Hikozaru: Fire/Psychic? It looks a bit Psychic... Imagine the flurr on its head turning into a turban, and itself into a baboon = Psychic.
Pochama Water/Fighting would be GREAT!
Then, this would make the starter triangle people thought of before true...
 
Torkelia Man said:
Based on the movesets, here's what I think the starters final types will be:

Naetle: Grass/Dark. Bite and Crunch, but then Ghost would be an odd possibility because of Curse. I'm still thinking dark though.

Hikozaru: Pure fire. It'd be the first one since Typhlosion! It will basically be a fire version of Slaking, but much better.

Pochama: Water/Flying. Drill Peck and Peck make this likely. This would be bad with the new category rules(Special+Physical), as It'll need high attack and sp. attack to make use of both.

PLease comment.
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The moves don't mean anything at all. Neatoru has the bite/crunch because of its huge jaws and snapping turtle resemblance. And curse is of the ??? type. I do think hikozaru will stay pure, as I do for all of the starters. I don't see why you think pocchama will be a flying type. The same could have been said of torchic, since it learns peck and mirror move and is a chick. Plus, flying is good against grass, and the water type starter will never gain a type that is good against grass. The moves don't determine the pokemon people, the look of the pokemon determines the moves (mostly).

Counterexamples...

Goldeen lears megahorn. Is it a bug type?
Nidoqueen learns bite and crunch. Is it a dark type?
Togetic learns magical leaf. Is it a grass type?
 
"First one SINCE Typhlosion" Note that since. What did we have in the middle? Only one Pokemon.
And Pocchama will be the first pure water [if he is] since Feraligtr.
And Grassy will be the first Dual Grass since Venausur.
 
I can see Naetle gaining Dark, but personally I can't see the others gaining a second type. Maybe Ice on Pochama, but that's it.

It will be weird, though, considering no previous starter has had a Special Secondary-type. I had this crazy theory that if they had to have a secondary special, it would be limited to Dark, Ice, or Electric, because those are essentially the "other elements," beyond Water/Fire/Grass.

Psychic is more "lol magic" than an element, and we all know about Dragon being uber :p
 
Based on what sounds more logic:
Naetle: Pure Grass/ Grass/Rock. Pure grass if the evo's don't have a shell anymore,and grass/rock because the shell can be as hard an rock, right?
Hikozaru: Pure Fire. No other comments.
Pocchama: Water/Ice since penguins can't fly.

Based on the movesets
Naetle: Pure Grass. Of course it learns Bite and Crunch, but Totodile also does and its still pure Water.
Hikozaru: Pure Fire. Still no other comments
Pocchama: Pure Water. He can't learn any Ice attacks but Mist, but Wingull also learns it but that no real proof.

Anyway, who nows? We will find out in 5 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes and 51 seconds...

EDIT: Yay... got my first Johto userrank badge...
 
Torkelia Man said:
Based on the movesets, here's what I think the starters final types will be:

Naetle: Grass/Dark. Bite and Crunch, but then Ghost would be an odd possibility because of Curse. I'm still thinking dark though.

Hikozaru: Pure fire. It'd be the first one since Typhlosion! It will basically be a fire version of Slaking, but much better.

Pochama: Water/Flying. Drill Peck and Peck make this likely. This would be bad with the new category rules(Special+Physical), as It'll need high attack and sp. attack to make use of both.

PLease comment.
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Moves mean nothing. Gardevoir can learn Thunder punch, Shock wave, Thunder AND Thunderbolt and it isn't an electric type.

And FYI, Hikozaru learns Taunt, Torment and Scheme, which are 3 dark attacks and nobody said it will be Dark. I myself think it will.

So, for me:

Grass/Steel
Fire/Dark
Water(it cant be Ice neither Flying or it would lose its weakness to Grass;))
 
Pochamma lears Drill peck, and it's assumed it's Flying...
Torcic learns Peck and Mirror move, and it's evos are Fire/Fight...
Movesets mean nothing in basal starters since R/S/E.
 
Well I have to disagree, the water starter being water/flying would make the grass starter completly ineffective against him, so the whole triangle thing would be screwed. Always, at the previous games the triangle is always there at the final evos, so based on that poochama's final evo is not gonna be water/flying nor water/ice.

Besides, pokemons learn moves according with their looks, behavior and habitat, not only because its types. Afterall remember torchic learned peck and blaziken was fire/fighting at the end.
 
Torkelia Man said:
Hikozaru: Pure fire. It'd be the first one since Typhlosion! It will basically be a fire version of Slaking, but much better.

Pochama: Water/Flying. Drill Peck and Peck make this likely. This would be bad with the new category rules(Special+Physical), as It'll need high attack and sp. attack to make use of both.
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For both of these, you can simply look at torchic to see they aren't necissarily true. For instance, torchic can learn peck, and he doesn't evolve into a flying type. Also, he doesn't learn any moves from his evolutions's second type until he evolves, this could make either of these false. Also, in regards to Naetoru being dark later, squirtle and co. can learn bite, and they aren't dark.

I'm not saying they won't happen, but just to wait and see, because you could be supprised.
 
i like the idea of a grass ghost, but i think it'll only have crunch coz ov its big jaw, lots of non-dark pokemon can learn crunch, nidorina for example
 
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