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new evolves overrated

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rhyperior, magnezone and the new evolves of magmar and togetic are so irrelevant and dissimiliar to the original poke it evolved from, they stand out as nintendo's desparate attempt to make new pokemon. i mean creating new ones like abomasnow is one thing, but dragging out evolves of things that shouldnt evolve like rhydon and togetic and magneton is kinda pathetic. what do you think?
 
Well yes, they aren't very original.

But they've created almost 500 Pokemon.

Besides, those aren't even the worst. There's Pokemon like Roserade, which I find utterly pointless.

I felt Blissey was cutting it a bit close. Feels like Chansey shouldn't have a evolved form.
 
I actually like new evolutions better than a bunch of poorly imagined new Pokemon. I don't think they're bad. Well, except for Magnezone. And they're Pokemon that are commonly used, which I think is good. It makes it more fun when your old stand-bys have one more stage to go through.
 
I like most of the new evos its preevos we don't need more of.
 
Some of the pokemon i would have been content with as 1 stagers. some pokemon who (I think) deserved an evolution didn't get one (Farfetch'd)

Magnezones alright. at least it has some resemblance to its previous form, and its cry sounds like it's laughing. (NOTE: Mangezone bears some resemblance to the final boss (flying mode) of Sonic Chaos)

Rhypherior (in my opinion) looks almost nothing like a rhydon evolution.
Togekiss I like because Togetic looked like it wasnt finished evolving.

Tangela didnt need an evolution, nor did Lickitung

thats just my 2 cents
 
Rhydon and Dusclops pretty much needed their evolutions to viably compete in the OU metagame of DP. Without the benefit of Solid Rock/increased defenses, Rhydon and Dusclops would've found themselves overwhelmed.

That being said, no evolution of an older Pokemon is currently overrated.
 
Yeah some of the evolved forms of older pokemon seem unoriginal -especially togetic's evolution- but they are stronger. You got to live with it and you don't have to evolve it if you don't want to. I don't think it was a deperate attempt from nintendo to evolve original pokemon. They were just thinking of new pokemon and evolutions are always cool.
 
pokekid1 said:
Yeah some of the evolved forms of older pokemon seem unoriginal -especially togetic's evolution- but they are stronger. You got to live with it and you don't have to evolve it if you don't want to. I don't think it was a deperate attempt from nintendo to evolve original pokemon. They were just thinking of new pokemon and evolutions are always cool.
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a little fairy that evolves into a huge white egg jet shaped owl isnt original enough?
 
I like most of the new pokemon evo's. Togekiss, Electivire, Weavile, Yanmega, Leafeon, Glaceon, Gliscor, Porygon-Z, Mamoswine, Gallade, Dusknoir, Froslass, and Lickilicky are the ones I like.
 
At first I didnt like many of the new evolutions of older pokemon most have grown on me though. In the end its allowed more pokemon just what they needed to get into the OU game and give more diversity to the pokemon people can choose from.

I still dont like magnezone (magneton looked much cooler) and magmortar just looks like magmar hung out with snorlaxs for a long while..

Still yay for more eevee evolutions (waiting to see all types in an eevee evolution)
 
Pachirisu said:
I like most of the new pokemon evo's. Togekiss, Electivire, Weavile, Yanmega, Leafeon, Glaceon, Gliscor, Porygon-Z, Mamoswine, Gallade, Dusknoir, Froslass, and Lickilicky are the ones I like.
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Hear, hear.

I read somewhere that GameFreak have already got over 1000 ideas for Pokémon, but we've seen less than 500 of them. I think it was somewhere on Pokécharms.com. But anyway, I think that they were trying to make sure that most Pokémon have three evolution stages. Togepi line now has three, Chansey line now has three, etc.

What I think we need is a Baby Lickitung, a baby Pinsir and a Pinsir Evolution, possibly a baby Scyther, Baby Onix maybe? Lol. Anyway my point is, certain Pokémon are becoming forgotten because they aren/t being given evolutions. I mean, can you imagine a Pinsir evolution?
 
In that case, Heracross needs a baby stage and a sub-baby stage.

Seriously though, Game Freak probably wanted to save as many Pokémon as they could to keep them competitive. This is the reason we have Pokémon like Probopass, Tangrowth, Yanmega (who beat Shuckle as the Bug Pokémon with the highest total Base Stats), Gliscor, Lickilicky, Honchkrow, and so forth. Some of them were so that the original Pokémon made sense, like the feminine-looking Gardevoir and the masculine-looking Glalie. ook at this. This is the generation where they broke the rule that evolution stones take Pokémon to their last stages.

This I'll bet is the same reason why a lot of Pokémon formerly not so competitive suddenly got new Abilities. Camerupt got Solid Rock. Venomoth got Tinted Lens. Nidoking and Nidoqueen got Belligerent. Octillery got Sniper. Mr. Mime got Filter. Clefable got Magic Guard. All of these gave an extra advantage, offensively or defensively, to help them survive better.

I'll bet Game Freak wanted to save even more Pokémon than that but couldn't find room for one more evolutionary stage, like Butterfree, Beedrill, Beautifly, Dustox, Golem, and Wigglytuff. They could make items for them though, like how they saved Marowak in Generation 2 with the Thick Club item.
 
D/P is the most uninspired pokémon yet and leans heavily on the Wi-Fi. Other than that it's mostly the same. Not only the evo's are uninspired also a lot of other pokémon. Take Clameow for example. That's just Meowth/Skitty for D/P. And Bidoof is just like Rattata, Sentret and Zigzagoon.
 
I think there'd be a lot of wondering and complaints if your common bird / rat pokemon weren't around in the beginning of the game. Granted, Bidoof is the spawn of Hell, but D/P would be strange without him. He's like the mascot everybody loves to hate.

I do agree some of the evolutions are unecessary and unwell designed, but others have given simple pokemon a competetive edge and allowed more variations in teams.
 
Ambipom is underrated, yet it is been proven to be pure evil. Especially with the Life Orb.
 
Not all pokemon need to evolve. Some are fine with just one or two stages. Baby evos are usually completely useless. Why would we need our Chanseys to be Hapinnys first? A couple new evos each generation is cool, but baby forms are usually a sad attempt to add more pokemon.
 
gamefreak never does everything the right way in one generation, on purpose i mean

they do many things in the right way each time and add some crazy things, so they have something to do in the next gen

like these evos, 80% of them are evos of pokes who needed them
20% were not necesary

so they have still some poor pokes left which they can evolve later (farfetch'd qwilfish luvdisc etc)
 
Rensch said:
D/P is the most uninspired pokémon yet and leans heavily on the Wi-Fi. Other than that it's mostly the same. Not only the evo's are uninspired also a lot of other pokémon. Take Clameow for example. That's just Meowth/Skitty for D/P. And Bidoof is just like Rattata, Sentret and Zigzagoon.
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We need the new Rattata. Even if it was a bear or whatever it could be, it still was the new Rattata. Every game nééds it.

And whatever about Glameow. Shellos is the new Barboach. Infernape is the new Blaziken. You can tell this about every Pokémon, please stop saying that all the time. I'm getting frustrated. X_X
 
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