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Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 136 Atk / 168 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Explosion

I liked this Metagross, but wanted a slightly bulkier spread. Only thing on my team that can lead. This beats Azelf, Gengar and Deoxys for me, who would otherwise run me over. Leftovers is chosen for better usefulness in general, but Lum Berry might give me a better chance of beating Hypnosis Gengar or Yanmega.



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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 60 HP/ 252 Def / 52 SAtk / 144 SDef
Bold nature: (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Hidden Power Electric
- Wish
- Ice Beam

I wanted Vaporeon to take special hits considerably better, so this spread was suggested. Beats Heatran and Gyarados, Garchomp to a lesser extent. Wish is invaluable for the team. Ice Beam is there over anything else to give me a way of beating Garchomp who gives me problems.


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Hariyama @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 52 Atk / 252 Def
Impish nature: (+Def, -SpA)
- Knock Off
- Ice Punch
- Force Palm
- Counter

Hehe. Counters Tyranitar and Weavile for me, along with a couple other things. Force Palm's paralysis chance appeals to me more than the stronger Cross Chop and Close Combat. Counter makes this depend on Wish quite often, but is a great move nonetheless. If I add a Choice Scarf on another of my Pokemon, I will make this a Rest Talker.


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Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SpA)
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

Awesome-Mence. Clears up obstacles early and in the middle of the game for my other Pokemon. Handles Celebi+Heatran decently, which makes me happy. Considering Scarfing this.


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Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 180 HP / 72 Spd / 48 SAtk / 208 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Earth Power

Absorbs status incredibly well, and outlasts a few important things. Is still a great attacker, and Earth Power is there to beat predicted Heatran switch-ins. I'm considering Scarfing this to make it a revenge killer, but that would require me to convert Hariyama into a Rest Talker.


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Heracross @ Leftovers
Ability: Guts
EVs: 204 HP / 148 Atk / 156 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge

Yeah! One of my favorite Pokemon of all time. A fantastic late-game sweeper, considering it doesn't go down too easily. Absolutely monstrous after a Swords Dance. Gliscor isn't really safe with Vaporeon and Hariyama around, so this gets the job done most of the time.

Thank you for reading.

Considering:
~ Choice Scarf on Heatran
~ Rest Talking Hariyama
~ Lum Berry on Metagross
 
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Have you seen Judi's Metagross before?

Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 204 HP / 52 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Thunderpunch
-Protect

I admit it's not totally new and must have been used at some point without popularisation, but it really works. I made the set because I knew 130 base Defense surely couldn't be used on only a restalk set. Can respond to physical threats (even CB Garchomp can't OHKO iirc) and work as an antilead. Special threats aren't really much to worry about either as they are often scared off by the expectation of a standard set, such as Gengar and Heatran. This set beats them anyway and helps to scout.

Ice Beam Vaporeon will want SAtk investment. 60 HP/ 252 Def/ 52 SAtk/ 144 SDef.
 
Yes, I have seen that Metagross. It's a great one, however this one is here to beat Azelf, Gengar and Deoxys, who would otherwise give me trouble.
Will go with that spread for Vaporeon.
I need input before I scarf someone and make Hariyama a Rest Talker.
 
Yeah, go for ScarfTran, otherwise, Weavile can give you trouble if Metagross is gone. Also noticed that the common Starmie-Infernape can just double team this team. Get a Pokemon that counters both. Starmie hits everything hard except for Metagross and Hera (which it can 2HKO) and Ape hits everything except hard except for Vap. Grass Knot hits the really fat Hariyama really hard.
 
Yeah, I guess Starmie gives me trouble, but that's what Metagross job is: beating those Pursuit-weak special sweepers. Vaporeon can outstall, iirc, taking minimal from Grass Knot. Infernape can't beat Hariyama.
 
Because of reflect and light screen, brick break on hariyama might work in place of force palm. If azelf, gengar, and deoxys will run you over and metagross is the counter, using it as a lead instead of saving it isn't so smart unless you really can't use anything else to lead...
 
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