Platinum problems

[Dragom master Tryce]

I have just got platinum recently, and I believed I had a great team, but I recently got a slightly a new idea for my team. I'm not entirely sure so I thought people could help me choose. My teame is currently as follows. Note that I am not putting down Items down because I have not collected all the desired items for my team yet.

Anyway, my team is:


Lapras
Move set:
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Safeguard


Gallade
Move set
-ThunderPunch
-Night Slash
-Psycho Cut
-Brick Break


Electivire
Move set
-Earthquake
-Cross Chop
-ThunderPunch
-Ice Punch

Magmortar
Move set
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Confuse Ray

Togekiss
Move set
-Aura Sphere
-Air Slash
-Thunder Wave
-Roost


My Final pokemon is my problem poke because I am stuck between

Rhyperior
Move set
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Megahorn
-Ice Punch


Mamoswine
Move Set
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Peck?
-Avalanche
The reason I am stuck is as follows: I like both pokemon equaly as much, but I have always wanted to make a team with mamoswine in it. On the other hand, Rhperior has a lot of potential, then again, so does mamoswine. Basicaly, every time I make my mind up, I notice things I hadn't previously seen in the other pokemon, which makes it seem worthwhile, so I need an outsiders opinion to help tip the balance.

 

[Arsel]

I would go with Rhyperior, but since you like Mamoswine, I think that you should chose that one.

 

[Evilyn]

I have just got platinum recently, and I believed I had a great team, but I recently got a slightly a new idea for my team. I'm not entirely sure so I thought people could help me choose. My teame is currently as follows. Note that I am not putting down Items down because I have not collected all the desired items for my team yet.

Anyway, my team is:


Lapras
Move set:
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Safeguard
Not good with Lapras, but I suggest giving it a bit more Defensive Oriented set.

Gallade
Move set
-Thunder Punch / Ice Punch
-Night Slash
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat


Electivire
Move set
-Earthquake
-Cross Chop
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

Magmortar
Move set
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power {Ice} / Hidden Power {Grass} / Psychic

Togekiss
Move set
-Aura Sphere / Nasty Plot
-Air Slash
-Thunder Wave
-Roost


My Final pokemon is my problem poke because I am stuck between

Rhyperior
Move set
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Megahorn
-Aqua Tail


Mamoswine
Move Set
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Superpower
-Avalanche
The reason I am stuck is as follows: I like both pokemon equaly as much, but I have always wanted to make a team with mamoswine in it. On the other hand, Rhperior has a lot of potential, then again, so does mamoswine. Basicaly, every time I make my mind up, I notice things I hadn't previously seen in the other pokemon, which makes it seem worthwhile, so I need an outsiders opinion to help tip the balance.

Changes in BOLD.

Now, for the last Pokemon. Rhyperior. You have a few uncovered Weaknesses that I would say Rhyperior would help the most with. However, you would have to keep Togekiss alive the entire battle practically, because you would then have 3 Pokemon weak to Ground.

However, this Team has a huge QuakeEdge weakness, regardless. With the exception of Gallade, every Pokemon on your Team is weak to Ground or Rock. This doesn't sound like that much of a problem, but even In-Game, that's HUGE. I would really suggest sticking Flygon in the last slot, actually. It really helps balance out the Type Syneregy.

Flygon @ Choice Band
Naughty
~ Dragon Claw / Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Fire Blast

 

[BlueMew7]

You need to state the nature of each of those pokemon before I can rant you out.. I-I-I mean... rate it .

 

[Evilyn]

You need to state the nature of each of those pokemon before I can rant you out.. I-I-I mean... rate it .

9. You must at least post movesets when asking for a "rate"
"Rate my team!! -insert 6 smilies here-" or "Rate my team! -list 6 pokemon and their natures here-"

Listing 6 pokemon and asking for a rate is spam. You need to post the movesets, or else what in the world do you want them to rate? The order in which you listed the "team" ?

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=171602

Natures are not required.

 

[Vaporeon4evr]

^Indeed. If they don't supply natures, then assume they don't know or don't care, and leave it alone.

 

[Dragom master Tryce]

Thanks to everyone for the help so far
Here is my thought's so far. Any updates will be edited at the end of the week.

Not good with Lapras, but I suggest giving it a bit more Defensive Oriented set.

I hadn't considered a defensive set for the main reason of I really can't work them. I just get bored of them too easy, and end up changing them later. Togekiss is the closest I have ever got to working a defensive set, and I don't really class it as that defensive really. I will listen to any suggestions though. Who knows? there could be one I like out there.

Gallade
Move set
-Thunder Punch / Ice Punch
-Night Slash
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat

I like this move set, but for one flaw, which is the close combat. I don't like the stat drop effect to it, especially in long battles, because I hate that you need to keep switching the poke out in order to keep a decent defence, but thanks for the suggestion. As for the Swords Dance, one of the reasons I added Gallade into the team was for the Psychic moves, to defend perior/mamoswine and lapras from fighting types, so I would prefer to keep it but, if more people suggest it I may be willing to consider.

Electivire
Move set
-Earthquake
-Cross Chop
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

terribly sorry, but my electivire's special attack is fairly poor in compared to attack, so thunderbolt would be a lot weker in most circumstances. Also, this electivire has been on my teams for ages, so I really don't like changing him.

Magmortar
Move set
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power {Ice} / Hidden Power {Grass} / Psychic

I hadn't even thought of Psychic on magmortar, so that I will probably go for that. I have really bad luck when it comes with hidden power, in the way that I always seem to get the worst possible choice, so I doubt I'll go for them.

Togekiss
Move set
-Aura Sphere / Nasty Plot
-Air Slash
-Thunder Wave
-Roost

I originally saw these options, and went for Aura Sphere for its rock beating effect.

Rhyperior
Move set
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Megahorn
-Aqua Tail

If I go for rhyperior (which seems quite likely at the moment) I will go for this move set, especially considering its added benefits in double battles as a healer for lapras.

Mamoswine
Move Set
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Superpower
-Avalanche

I might go for a similar team to this if mamo can learn something to cover for the stat loss from superpower, like bulk up, but otherwise I doubt I will go for it for the same reasons as gallade and close combat.

 

[Evilyn]

I hadn't considered a defensive set for the main reason of I really can't work them. I just get bored of them too easy, and end up changing them later. Togekiss is the closest I have ever got to working a defensive set, and I don't really class it as that defensive really. I will listen to any suggestions though. Who knows? there could be one I like out there.

Then there's plenty of better options than Lapras for an Offensive Water Type. Starmie for example.

I like this move set, but for one flaw, which is the close combat. I don't like the stat drop effect to it, especially in long battles, because I hate that you need to keep switching the poke out in order to keep a decent defence, but thanks for the suggestion. As for the Swords Dance, one of the reasons I added Gallade into the team was for the Psychic moves, to defend perior/mamoswine and lapras from fighting types, so I would prefer to keep it but, if more people suggest it I may be willing to consider.

Keeping Psycho Cut is fine, but having it isn't a priority due to it's low Type Coverage.

terribly sorry, but my electivire's special attack is fairly poor in compared to attack, so thunderbolt would be a lot weker in most circumstances. Also, this electivire has been on my teams for ages, so I really don't like changing him.

Without Thunderbolt, it loses most high Defense Steels, e.g. Forretress. Thunder Punch is fine, but even with a lower Special Attack, Thunderbolts higher Power and those aforementioned KOes allow it a warrant for use over T-Punch.

I hadn't even thought of Psychic on magmortar, so that I will probably go for that. I have really bad luck when it comes with hidden power, in the way that I always seem to get the worst possible choice, so I doubt I'll go for them.

Psychic is generally a poor choice, so I would only suggest using it if you absolutely can't get either HP. It's mostly a filler move.

I might go for a similar team to this if mamo can learn something to cover for the stat loss from superpower, like bulk up, but otherwise I doubt I will go for it for the same reasons as gallade and close combat.

Then just use a filler over Super Power, like you mentioned Peck for Hera or you could use Ice Fang

 

[Nidoprince]

Hmm, I would do Mamoswine. Rhyperior is great, but way to many weaknesses. Personally, for your team, I wouldn't do either. They both share a weakness with Lapras (Fighting).

 

[Dragom master Tryce]

Hmm, I would do Mamoswine. Rhyperior is great, but way to many weaknesses. Personally, for your team, I wouldn't do either. They both share a weakness with Lapras (Fighting).

True, but periors weaknesses are lowered by solid rock, so the onlymain problems he has are water and grass.

 

[Nidoprince]

True, but periors weaknesses are lowered by solid rock, so the onlymain problems he has are water and grass.

Which do 4X the damage.

Plus, it has extremely low Special Defense, so any attack like Energy Ball or even a Water Gun would beat it in a hit.

EDIT: not to mention it's speed, unless equipped with a Quick Claw, any Sp. Attacker that's fast (Alakazam, Gardevoir, etc.) can beat it. Which is why Mamoswine would be better.

 

[Emo_Kirlia]

Rhyperior because it has better type coverage but if you realy like Mamoswine then I say go for Mamoswine

 

[Dragom master Tryce]

Which do 4X the damage.

I know, but that is a problem I am trying to address with the rest of my team.

Also, just for future reference, there power is weakened down to just over 2X (2 and 2/3 to be exact, if I recall correct.)

 

[Kecleoshrew]

In my opinion you should get rid of lapras then put both mamoswine and rhyperior in.

 

[Dragom master Tryce]

In my opinion you should get rid of lapras then put both mamoswine and rhyperior in.

I would but that would go against my team rules. I made a rule a while back that said I must have a water type pokemon in all my teams. I have kept to this rule for all my teams since then, and I do not wish to break it now. Also, Lapras is a brilliant water-type counter, which benefits my team, whether i decide on rhyperior or mamoswine (especially rhyperior.) as both have a water type weakness

 

[Kecleoshrew]

Kay, well then id put in mamoswine as all my rhyperiors have high defense but take a lot of damage even from fire type attacks.

 

[Dragom master Tryce]

Kay, well then id put in mamoswine as all my rhyperiors have high defense but take a lot of damage even from fire type attacks.

I have been considering Mamoswine a lot more recntly, since a friend told me to replace lapras with kingdra.

If I do I'm thinking of going with the following moveset, so any thoughts would be welcome

Kingdra
-Surf
-Dragon Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Toxic

 

[Vaporeon4evr]

Here's a good Kingdra set.

Kingdra @ Life Orb
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Outrage
-Hydro Pump/Yawn

 

[GalladeTheGreat]

Mamoswine

I hate Rhyperior

 

[Dragom master Tryce]

Here's a good Kingdra set.

Kingdra @ Life Orb
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Outrage
-Hydro Pump/Yawn

I would prefer to keep it specially inclined so as to maintain the balance I have between physical and special attackers. Although I do agree that that is a good set though.