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crossfire08

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Lucario @ Choice Band
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nature: Adamant
evs: 252atk/4def/252spd
Close Combat
Crunch
Stone Edge
Bullet Punch

starts... as you said.. bullet punch for weavile, crunch for gengars, Stone Edge for Aero??

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Starmie @ Expert Belt
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nature: Timid
252 SpAtk/ 176 Speed/ 132 DEF or 252 SpAtk/252DEF/6hp??
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Recover
special sweeper... BoltBeam instead of Grass Knot bcoz i wanna put it to Infernape to surprise any bulky waters

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Gliscor @ Leftovers
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Nature: Impish)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Roost
Stealth Rock

physical wall.. kinda herra wall?? changed to SR!

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Cresselia@ Leftovers
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nature: Bold
EVs: 252HP/180Def/76Sp Atk
Ice Beam
Sleep Talk
Charge Beam
Rest

special wall?? status absorber too

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Infernape @ Life Orb
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nature: Naive
evs: 24atk/232spd/252spatk
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Close Combat

mixed sweeper.. kill bulky wwaters!

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Garchomp @ Life Orb
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ability: Sand Veil
nature: Jolly
evs: 12hp/252atk/240spd
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang/Blast

sweeps in late game... Dragon Claw for STAB... im not sure on what to use.. Fire Fang/Blast?? im thinkin of using fang coz chomp has lots of atk already
 
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Give Lucario Choice Scarf instead of Band, since you want to outspeed Gengar.
Since Starmie has recover, give it more defense.
I like to run enough HP on Garchomp to get 401 HP. Also Max Speed, and the rest into attack. And use Fire Fang.
 
Hi. Hera weak. Bye.

Seriously. Use Gliscor. Its there for a reason.
 
Give Lucario Choice Scarf instead of Band, since you want to outspeed Gengar.
Since Starmie has recover, give it more defense.
I like to run enough HP on Garchomp to get 401 HP. Also Max Speed, and the rest into attack. And use Fire Fang.
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but would lucario still kill weavile with bullet punch??

Hi. Hera weak. Bye.
Seriously. Use Gliscor. Its there for a reason.
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isn't skarmory good enough for hera???

All your pokemon are standard movesets so there isn't much to rate. Electivire weak
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garchomp can handle 1 ice punch from electivire... then the shark can outspeed electivire then destroy it with earthquake...
 
Lucario wants Blaze Kick>Bullet Punch with Choice Scarf. If you want to be picky, the proper ev spread for that moveset is 10/252/248, because with that speed you will already outspeed Electrode. Also makes eving easier because you just have to use a HP Up or w/e on Lucario, but it really doesn't matter. The point is you wont be outspeeding much without a CS.
 
Lucario wants Blaze Kick>Bullet Punch with Choice Scarf. If you want to be picky, the proper ev spread for that moveset is 10/252/248, because with that speed you will already outspeed Electrode. Also makes eving easier because you just have to use a HP Up or w/e on Lucario, but it really doesn't matter. The point is you wont be outspeeding much without a CS.
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i just need to know that if i used choice scarf, would i outspeed weavile and kill it with close combat???
 
Weavile is slower than Electrode, so yes. The only non-CS pokemon that are faster than Electrode are Ninjask and Deoxys. And Skarm is still killed by boltbeam, so it really doesn't matter. Gliscor is just a better wall. Don't keep it in on something that might have Ice Beam.
 
crossfire08 said:
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Lucario @ ChoiceScarf
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nature: Adamant
evs: 252atk/4def/252spd
Close Combat
Crunch
Stone Edge
Blaze Kick

starts... as you said.. bullet punch for weavile, crunch for gengars, Stone Edge for Aero??

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Starmie @ Expert Belt
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nature: Timid
252 SpAtk/ 176 Speed/ 132 DEF or 252 SpAtk/252DEF/6hp??
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Recover
special sweeper... BoltBeam instead of Grass Knot bcoz i wanna put it to Infernape to surprise any bulky waters

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Gliscor @ Leftovers
dpiconani472.gif

Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Roost
Stealth Rock

physical wall.. kinda herra wall?? changed to SR!

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Cresselia@ Leftovers
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nature: Bold
EVs: 252HP/180Def/76Sp Atk
Ice Beam
Sleep Talk
Charge Beam
Rest

special wall?? status absorber too

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Infernape @ Life Orb
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nature: Naive
evs: 24atk/232spd/252spatk
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Close Combat

mixed sweeper.. kill bulky wwaters!

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Garchomp @ Life Orb
dpiconani445.gif

ability: Sand Veil
nature: Jolly
evs: 12hp/252atk/240spd
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang/Blast

sweeps in late game... Dragon Claw for STAB... im not sure on what to use.. Fire Fang/Blast?? im thinkin of using fang coz chomp has lots of atk already
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Hunter_RuLe said:
All your pokemon are standard movesets so there isn't much to rate. Electivire weak.
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That's because everyone suggests the standard moveset for a certain pokemon whenever a new one is given.
 
That's because everyone suggests the standard moveset for a certain pokemon whenever a new one is given.
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With some originality a team could still work though. Many pokemon have more than one workable moveset and it's fun to use pokemon that aren't used by everyone but still work good. Look at some teams of toy and myself for example and you see what I mean.
 
Despite Cress being the best Vire counter in the game.

With no Bullet Punch, you don't beat Weavile leads. With no Blaze Kick you don't beat Heracross leads. I know which one I see more, Punch all the way.
 
Despite Cress being the best Vire counter in the game.

With no Bullet Punch, you don't beat Weavile leads. With no Blaze Kick you don't beat Heracross leads. I know which one I see more, Punch all the way.
 
I said can do some hurting. His Cresselia can't do much damage to Electivire but it can also Rest.

Anyway, it's hardly the best counter. Rhyperior, Hippowdon, Swampert and Donphan are there to compete.
 
but then isn't cc super effective to weavile????

if thats the case im gonna put bullet punch instead because.... why change skarm to gliscor if lucario a good counter to heracross..
 
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