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Sand Attack!

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brownsound

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Hey this is my first post, along with my first competitive try (for my friends at least), so please, any positive feedback is welcome :). A Sandstorm team!

;450; Hippowdon (Impish) @Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang
-Stealth Rock
-Slack Off
My lead and physical punching bag. Brings in Sandstorm and Stealth Rock, Slack Off if I need to heal. Ice Fang for Dragon leads.

;212; Scizor (Impish) @Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs:184 HP/176 Def/148 Spd
-X-Scissor
-Swords Dance
-Agility
-Baton Pass
My Baton Passer. Switches in to something it resists, Swords Dance or Agility, and Baton Pass it to someone to sweep. X-Scissor to hurt things.

;445; Garchomp (Jolly) @Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Atk/224 Spd/32 SpDef
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Fire Fang
Man, does this guy hurt! If he gets Baton Passed a Swords Dance, he can wreak havoc. Outrage for late game spanking. My main physical sweeper.

;260; Swampert (Relaxed) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/ 212 Def/ 56 SpAtk
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Stone Edge
MixPert! Stone Edge for Gyarados, anything weak, etc.

;448; Lucario (Hasty) @ Life Orb
Trait: Inner Focus
Evs:131 Sp Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6Hp/ 121 Atk
-Close Combat
-Dark Pulse
-Stone Edge
-Extremespeed
A mix-attacking Lucario.

;395; Empoleon (Modest)@Leftovers
Trait:Torrent
Evs: 252 HP/ 6 Sp Atk/ 252 SpDef
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot
-Roar
I hate you Specmence. Eat a Ice Beam. Grass Knot for other waters. YAY for forced switches!

Rate, Comment, Throw things at me, anything!
 
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that team is very good
 
I actually like the idea of having both SD and Agility on Scizor... with its nice collection of resistances, Scizor can often set up both and pass them, making sweeping much easier.

As for Garchomp, Outrage works well with a Choice item since you get locked into the move anyway and Choice item = switching = healing confusion. Choice Scarf is also a valid item for Garchomp so that it pretty much can't be outsped, even by DDmence after one Dragon Dance. However, passing it a Swords Dance may not be the best idea when paired with a Choice item.. if you really want to pass SD and use the Choice item, then Dragon Claw might be better. As for the Fire move, I think Fire Fang is usually considered the better option on this guy (Fire Blast really only makes a difference with Skarmory since unlike Bronzong, it has a low Sp.Def.).

Claydol might like having Shadow Ball to deal with Ghosts and other Psychics.

Sleep Talk can also go over Grass Knot on Empoleon for a more generic Water moveset.
 
I would replace lucario with shuckle and see the out come
 
Lol, did you Hear Randomn00b. He said to post Something WORTHWHILe, SHUCKLE IS NOT WORTHWHILE. BECAUSE HE SUCKS, DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY CALL HIM CHUCKLE Gallade Master? SERIOUSLY, HE HAS THE WORST STATAS IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE GAME.
 
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bella_bellaboo said:
Lol, did you Hear Randomn00b. He said to post Something WORTHWHILe, SHUCKLE IS NOT WORTHWHILE. BECAUSE HE SUCKS, DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY CALL HIM CHUCKLE Gallade Master? SERIOUSLY, HE HAS THE WORST STATAS IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE GAME.
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First of all youll condredicting yourself critizing people all the time isnt worthwile either this is the rate my team forum not the blast what everyone says forum o.k so try to be constructive and maybe actually rate the guys team

yeah and on garchomp

dragon claw
earthquake
fire fang
stone edge

just my opinion
 
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Electric Squirrel, Garchomp without Swords Dance is an Upset Dragon. Here what the Set should be,

Garchomp @:Leftovers/Life Orb
Trait:Sand Veil
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Fire Fang. Also, you're not a Expert at this Forum. SHUCKLE IS THE WORST POKEMON IN THE GAME, DO NOT USE IT. Also, have you Actually read the Rules of this Forum.
 
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..Garchomp is perfectly happy with a Choice Band/Scarf instead of SD, and electric squirrel's set is a good set for a Choice item..

..and Shuckle is by no means the worst pokemon in the game.. the fact that it does have the highest defenses in the game means that it can stall out many opponents (especially UU and NU ones) that aren't Super Effective against it. However, back to Gallade master's post, replacing Lucario with Shuckle is not a good idea.

That being said, you may want to consider switching some pokemon since right now this team takes considerable damage from Ice + Ground/Fire/Fighting moves..
 
bella_bellaboo said:
Electric Squirrel, Garchomp without Swords Dance is an Upset Dragon. Here what the Set should be,

Garchomp @:Leftovers/Life Orb
Trait:Sand Veil
Adamant/Jolly Nature
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Fire Fang. Also, you're not a Expert at this Forum. SHUCKLE IS THE WORST POKEMON IN THE GAME, DO NOT USE IT. Also, have you Actually read the Rules of this Forum.
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See you did it agian can you have 1 post where you dont critizies someone or nis that to hard for you
 
The only problem with Outrage is that you can't switch. If you're willing to take the risk for the extra power, be my guest.
 
Right, there is an obvious risk with Outrage, but seeing as Steel is the only type that resists it and most Steel types won't be doing much to Garchomp anyway, I think it's a risk worth taking. If Garchomp is packing an attack boost of any type (SD or CB), Outrage will probably rip through anyone that tries to counter it. Ice Beam Empoleon and Ice Punch Metagross are really among the few pokemon that pose a real threat to you while locked into Outrage.. and possibly Ice Fang Steelix.. and out of those, only Empoleon will often be carrying an Ice move..
 
lol thanks for all this feedback. I'm thinking of replacing Claydol, considering he's harming my team with his weaknesses and i think i need an appropriate Gyarados counter.

so I'm thinking of replacing him with a Mixpert

;260; Swampert (Relaxed) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/ 212 Def/ 56 SpAtk
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Stone Edge
I don't feel like breeding for 319724610 hours for HP Electric.

also I'm trying to maybe fit a Cradily, onto this team to befit Sand Stream more. Any suggestion on what to replace?
 
Swampert looks good, although you no longer have a Spinner.. granted you aren't exactly terrified of Stealth Rock with this team, but there's still Spikes, Leech Seed, Toxic Spikes, etc. You also lost your Fighting resist by dropping Claydol.

If anything, I think Empoleon can be swapped now that you have Swampert, although it is your main Ice absorber to help Garchomp. Maybe Gliscor as a Fighting resist somewhere and keep Empoleon to take Ice attacks aimed at it as well..

There's also the ever-present Skarmory, Tyranitar, and Metagross to consider fitting in...
 
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