second RMT[OU]

[CreepacisT]

mmm,well.
decided to make it standard, being a lead, offensive core, defensive core, and a revenge killer. based it off my houndoom. NP is a beast.

at a glance.
;260; ;229; ;407; ;479; ;197; ;461;


LEAD
;260; @ leftovers
relaxed, 252 hp 252 def 4 atk
-roar
-stealth rock
-waterfall
-eq
SUPER awesome lead. either stealth rocks or attacks first turn, depending on the enemy. If the enemy will taunt, I go w/ waterfall, because most likely it will hit them super hard. otherwise, I go EQ. Obviously depends on typing. Roar late game for fazing/stalling, works great when SR plus spikes are up.

special atker
;229; @ life orb
modest, 252spA 252 spe 4 hp
-nasty plot
-flamethrower
-dark pulse
-HP fighting

Obvious, but way underused. I dont see why.
move in on afire atk sent to either roserade or weavile for the boost, NP when they switch out or atk. flamethrower and dark pulse for STAB and coverage. HP fighting for pokes that might switch in on houndoom after he gets an NP. most likely OHKOs empoleon swampert and heatran, scarf heatran is a giant problem for him, usually dealt w/ by pert.

;407; @ leftovers
calm, 252 HP, 120 spe, 138 spD
-spikes
-stun spore/sleep powder
-grass knot
-HP fire

switch in and set up as many layers of spikes I can w/o getting major damage. grass knot for threats like ttar pert etc. sleep powder for an extra turn of spikes as well as majorly messing up their team. HP fire for most common rapid spinners not dealt w/ by grass knot. mainly foretress. Also for an unsuspecting scizor that tries to switch in and set up.

;479; needs to be replaced. need a physical ghost, probably dusknoir. need ghost for explosion threats plus rapid spinners, and my team greatly benefits from not only SR but spikes, as well.

;197; @ leftovers
careful, 252 HP 252 def 4 spe
-toxic
-wish
-protect
-payback

physical tank as well as very helpful wish support. toxic+wish+protect=total stall out to weaken. allows me to either straight up stall a pokemon to death, have them switch out way late after they realize they made a mistake by not switching, or at least poisoning them so that they use it very conservatively and riskily. payback for stab and powerful hit, seeing as its pretty damn slow and will cause switchouts due to toxic+stall.

;461; @ choice band
jolly, 252 atk 252 spe 4 hp
-pursuit
-ice shard
-brick break
-aerial ace

great revenge killer. ice shard for stab+priority, and the many dragons in OU. pursuit for pokemon switching out. pursuit also always ohko'es gengars and alakazams after SR. brick break for coverage and to deal w/ some of the pokemon that can wall this team. same for aerial ace. GREAT pokemon to use, really fills the void my crappy mesprit revenge killer left when he was there. xD dont judge me Im new!


obviously needs some help seeing as one of my pokemon already needs to go. when I made it I rly didnt look at counters, either, and this will be used in OU.

okay, let er rip!


and if you read this, calum, consider it a test

 

[CreepacisT]

and 1 more thing, I kno most pokemon arent OU, but they fit so well, and I see no problem in having UU in OU seeing as most dont outclass OU, and definitely not the ones I use if any even do.

 

[JRCxyz]

I have to leave to school so no rate. I'll point out some stuff.

You say you don't use outclassed Pokemon, heh? Well, Heatran outclasses Houndoom. Why are you using Umbreon over Vaporeon? Because you like him better? Or to add to your Fighting weakness? Or to not have a reliable way of beating Gyarados and Infernape? If the reason you chose Umbreon over Vaporeon is one of those, then your reason is a bad one.

In Weavile's description you say "im new don't judge me." I would like you to see this pointers not as me judging you but me trying to help out.

and if you read this, calum, consider it a test

Is calum some kind of celebrity nowadays?

 

[CreepacisT]

I have to leave to school so no rate. I'll point out some stuff.

You say you don't use outclassed Pokemon, heh? Well, Heatran outclasses Houndoom. Why are you using Umbreon over Vaporeon? Because you like him better? Or to add to your Fighting weakness? Or to not have a reliable way of beating Gyarados and Infernape? If the reason you chose Umbreon over Vaporeon is one of those, then your reason is a bad one.

In Weavile's description you say "im new don't judge me." I would like you to see this pointers not as me judging you but me trying to help out.



Is calum some kind of celebrity nowadays?

I used houndoom because of NP. I think it works pretty well in my team, because once they hit it with flash fire they generally switch out and let me NP.

as far as umbreon and vaporeon, I didn't think of him XP but I can try him out

and don't worry bout the judging, ur not

as far as calum, he's like helping me, kinda like your tutor forums.

 

[zapper22001]

Use Low Kick over Brick Break on Weavile. Brick Break is just outclassed and shouldn't be used when you have such a better option. Low Kick can actually KO Tyranitar without a CB boost which is extremely helpful. Low Kick also means Scizor must think twice about switching in, because Low Kick takes a nice hunk of health away on the switch in. Low Kick is just better in terms of damage output as it hits every Pogey harder that Brick Break would hit except Blissey and Empoleon. Though, no Blissey in theri right mind would stay in on a Weavile anyway.

That's my two cents, but i'll come back for more later.

 

[CreepacisT]

@ zapper I was considering it, went w/ brick break for screens, didn't kno what low kick can do tho, and t-tar is somewhat of a threat...Ill test that out, thanks.
@ jrc, 1 more thing, how does vaporeon counter gyara? and I have a counter for infernape, swampert.

 

[tyranitar90]

hey, is lowkick a hg/ss move? if it is then
but otherwise its a great looking team. I love swampert as my lead. it's annoying to take out . also using spikes is great. You can use spiritomb over dusknoir, since it has like the same tanking job and pressure, but has no weakness. Burning people with WoW is fun too.

 

[JRCxyz]

I used houndoom because of NP. I think it works pretty well in my team, because once they hit it with flash fire they generally switch out and let me NP.

as far as umbreon and vaporeon, I didn't think of him XP but I can try him out

Well, you don't really support Houndoom enough to warrant the cut over Heatran. Try Vaporeon out. He doesn't disappoint.

@ jrc, 1 more thing, how does vaporeon counter gyara? and I have a counter for infernape, swampert.

When you switch Vaporeon into Gyarados as he does anything he would normally do (Dragon Dance, Waterfall, Earthquake, Stone Edge), Gyarados is forced out as he risks either being KO'd by Hidden Power Electric, phased by Roar, or simply outstalled of Earthquake/Stone Edge PP.

Lol. Swampert isn't an Infernape counter. Grass Knot: Hi.

 

[Tales Fanatic777]

just a quick Statement... Weavile (Life Orb or Scarf variants) would wreck you (more likely Life Orb) Brick Break takes out everything but Roserade, Ghost, and Swampert.... Pursuit/Nigh Slash takes out Ghost... and Ice Punch/Shard takes out Roserade....