Team

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

Metagross@Choice Band
Nature:Adamant
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Sludge Bomb

Weezing@Chesto Berry
Nature:????
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb
-Will-O-Wisp
-Rest

Regice@Leftovers
Nature:????
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Toxic
-Rest

Salamence@Choice Band/Leftovers
Nature:????
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Fire Blast
-Aerial Ace

Starmie@Leftovers
Nature:Modest
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic
-Surf

Regirock@Choice Band
Nature:????
-Superpower
-Rock Slide
-Explosion
-Earthquake

I already have these Pokemon:
Starmie
Weezing
Metagross
Salamence

I have never tried Regirock or Regice...

Sludge Bomb has helped me so much more than Rock Slide...

Rate My Team on a Scale From 1-1000

Give Suggestions if you give a Number Rate...

Pure Number Rates Are SPAM... They Do Not Help Anyone...

 

[Dar1818]

Metagross@Choice Band
Nature:Adamant
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Sludge Bomb

Weezing@Leftovers
Nature:Relaxed
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb
-Will-O-Wisp
-Rest/Pain Split

Regice@Leftovers
Nature:Bold
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Toxic/Thunder Bolt
-Rest

Salamence@Choice Band/Lum Berry, not Lefties
Nature:Adamant
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Fire Blast
-Aerial Ace

Starmie@Shell Bell
Nature:Modest
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic
-Surf

Regirock@Choice Band
Nature:Adamant I guess, if you're going w/cbrock . . .lol
-Superpower
-Rock Slide
-Explosion
-Earthquake

I already have these Pokemon:
Starmie
Weezing
Metagross
Salamence
Why have you listed these . . .

I have never tried Regirock or Regice...Do you need to know how to get them?

Sludge Bomb has helped me so much more than Rock Slide...Fine, they help evenly.

Rate My Team on a Scale From 1-1000No number rates.

Give Suggestions if you give a Number Rate...Same

Pure Number Rates Are SPAM... They Do Not Help Anyone...

If you already have some pokemon and aren't willing to get a new ones (I'm inferring this as you likely wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise) then why are you asking for natures?

 

[aragornbird]

Weezing@Leftovers
Nature:Relaxed
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb
-Will-O-Wisp
-Rest

Regice@Leftovers
Nature:Bold
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Toxic
-Rest

Salamence@Choice Band
Nature:Adamant
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Fire Blast
-Aerial Ace

Regirock@Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
-Superpower
-Rock Slide
-Explosion
-Earthquake

I don't like CBRock.

Regirock @Leftovers
Adamant
-Thunder Wave
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Explosion

OR

Regirock @Leftovers
Careful
-Curse
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Rest

You have troubles with Swampert.

 

[The Mighty Wurmple]

Metagross@Choice Band
Nature:Adamant
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Sludge Bomb [Rock Slide is still better, as Sludbe Bomb only covers Grass Types.]

Weezing@[Leftovers]
Nature:???? [Careful/Impish/something]
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb
-Will-O-Wisp
-Rest [Explosion]

Regice@Leftovers
Nature:???? [Bold]
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Toxic [Thunder Wave is better]
-Rest

Salamence@Choice Band/Leftovers
Nature:???? [Adamant]
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Fire Blast [With CB, Dragon Dance with Leftovers]
-Aerial Ace

Starmie@Leftovers
Nature:Modest
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Psychic [/Recover]
-Surf

Regirock@Choice Band [Leftovers with Curse]
Nature:???? [Careful/Impish]
-Superpower [Curse is good]
-Rock Slide
-Explosion [/Rest]
-Earthquake

I already have these Pokemon:
Starmie
Weezing
Metagross
Salamence

I have never tried Regirock or Regice...

Sludge Bomb has helped me so much more than Rock Slide...

Rate My Team on a Scale From 1-1000

Give Suggestions if you give a Number Rate...

Pure Number Rates Are SPAM... They Do Not Help Anyone...

There's my rates. I would give your team a 850/1000. Or around there anyway.

edit: Darn! Beaten. >=(

 

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

I used my Explosion Tutor on Metagross...

I used up my Explosion Tutor on Gengar in Pokemon LeafGreen Version when I did not know a thing about Pokemon... Yeah, I used to be a noob...

What's the Pokemon that learns DD the earliest so that I can breed with Salamence???

Rest helps a lot on Weezing... It almost never needs to explode... especially with Will-O-Wisp... I am going to have Pain Split once I get a Misdreavus... I have no Link Cable...

To Dar1818: I'm too lazy too look at the Pokemon's Natures... I already know how to get Regice/Regirock...
Number Rates aren't SPAM if you give suggestions... it says it somewhere in the rules...


Er... can this counter Swampert?

Gyarados@Leftovers
Nature:Adamant
-Hydro Pump
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Return

Surf does little...

Earthquake does nothing...

Ice Beam is unstabbed and does regular...

Starmie with Recover is better than Zam with Recover but it still doesn't work too well... I love landing super effective hits on my opponent...

 

[[Kingdra]]

Use Naughty on that Gyara and no that wouldn't counter Swampert

Lol used to be...

 

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

Er, what about this...

Sceptile@Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Leaf Blade
-Thunderpunch
-Substitute
-Leech Seed

Hahaha... I do not see how a Gyarados does not 'counter' Swampert assuming that 'counter' means- 'to have an advantage over'

 

[The Mighty Wurmple]

Well, duh, of course that would. STABbed 4X Super Effective Leaf Blade with a high chance of a Critical Hit = One Beat Swampert.

 

[Dar1818]

Er, what about this...

Sceptile@Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Leaf Blade
-Thunderpunch
-Substitute
-Leech Seed

Hahaha... I do not see how a Gyarados does not 'counter' Swampert assuming that 'counter' means- 'to have an advantage over'

Good luck with ice beams bud. And Gyrados is not a counter for anything, it has too limited a movepool and too low defenses. Type alone does not make a counter.

 

[The Mighty Wurmple]

Well, why would you leave a Sceptile out if the opponent is going to use Ice Beam? Sceptile should be fast enough to attack before they do anyway.

edit: Dar, on Ludicolo, Calm is preferred over Bold.

 

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

Hehe...

I always liked Gyarados though...

I think I am going to take out Regirock for Sceptile...

But then three Pokemon on my team die to Fire-Type moves... Regice is sort of different though...

Grrr... I will put Sceptile on my team... Regirock dies to too many things...

The "Er, what about this..." was being sarcastic...

 

[Dar1818]

Actually no it's not. If you put calm on ludicolo, most physical attacks would beat you one hit. And here's a newflash for you; most Swamperts carry ice beam. I fail to see how something highly succeptible to ice beam, which is very common on swamperts . . . counters swampert. Maybe I'm just slow. If the Swampert has proper ev's in SDEF and a halfway decent iv, Leaf blade will not OHKO it. On the other hand, Sceptile does not put any ev's in SDEF, and it has a horrible stat there in the first place, while Swampert does put some ev's into SATK. One ice beam from a Swampert on Sceptile has a reasonable chance of killing it.

Hey, where did my post with the ludi set go? Here it is again.

Ludi@lefties
BOLD>CALM
Leech Seed
Toxic
Rest/Substitute/Rain Dance
Surf

Go ahead and use Sceptile if you want, but it def doesn't solve the Swampert problem.

 

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

I'm not using Ludicolo...

Ludicolo looks like a "MEXICAN COCONUT with a BIG GREEN HAT"-Not my kind of Pokemon...

Gyarados faints Swampert anyday...

Sceptile kills Swampert anyday...

 

[The Mighty Wurmple]

I tried to figure out how much damage a Leaf Blade from Sceptile would do to a Swampert with around 260 SDef. I assumed Sceptile had only 300 Special Attack (39 off max). It would do around 500 damage, resulting in a OHKO. If both the Pokemon had max in the stats that they needed for this attack, then it would still OHKO it. Even a Sceptile with the lowest Special Attack it can have, and the Swampert has the BEST SDef stat it can have, it would do around 280 damage.
And Sceptile isn't going to be hit with Ice Beam first either, unless the Swampert has a Quick Claw. That is, if the Sceptile has the right Speed EV's.

 

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

Dar1818: Don't argue with the math...

 

[aragornbird]

And Gyrados is not a counter for anything, it has too limited a movepool and too low defenses.
Wow, I never didn't expect something like that to come from you. Low defenses?!? 100 Sp. Defense and 95 HP is not low. Swampert's Ice Beam won't do anything to Gyarados while it sets up. It will do around 24% max (assuming Swampert has 245 Sp. Atk, which is more than it will ever need and assuming Gyarados has 80 Hp EVs, which is the standard). With Leftovers, that's not even a 5KO.

 

[POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN]

Ah... so I was right, right?

 

[SHUCKLE MAN]

Good luck with ice beams bud. And Gyrados is not a counter for anything, it has too limited a movepool and too low defenses. Type alone does not make a counter.

Limited movepool? Yeah, right.

Well, if you are talking about physical movepool then possibly (its just ashame Gyrados does not have its base 100 Special Attack like it did in RBY)

Low Defenses? Base 100 Special Defense. Thats the same as Venusaur's and Mew's.

Type alone does not make a counter? True, but it does contribute a lot.

 

[Dar1818]

And Gyrados is not a counter for anything, it has too limited a movepool and too low defenses.
Wow, I never didn't expect something like that to come from you. Low defenses?!? 100 Sp. Defense and 95 HP is not low. Swampert's Ice Beam won't do anything to Gyarados while it sets up. It will do around 24% max (assuming Swampert has 245 Sp. Atk, which is more than it will ever need and assuming Gyarados has 80 Hp EVs, which is the standard). With Leftovers, that's not even a 5KO.

Wow, did I screw this one up. I don't use Gyrados because of it's limited PHYSICAL movepool, which is usually what it is good for, so I'm not real familier with it. That probably means I shouldn't have put in advice . . . I thought that the defenses were 70 and 70. I'll make a note not to mistake that again. Sorry.

As for Sceptile, my calculations say that a no ev trained Sceptile against a no ev trained Swampert using leaf blade will do 356 damage max. Maybe I screwed up and entered the numbers wrong, I don't know.

Ah... so I was right, right?

You were right and I was wrong that Gyrados would effectively stop Swampert. I apologize that I gave you bad info. But don't desreguard Ludicolo, it's type combo is very useful as an EQ protection. It wouldn't be a bad choice.

Mr. King, yes I made a mistake, but you have made plenty in the past too. I know how to show humility, and in this case I needed some. But you could learn to show some too. No one, myself obviously included, is perfect.

As a general finisher, it would be better for everyone if all advice I give in future on Gyrados is ignored.

 

[Reno]

You were right and I was wrong that Gyrados would effectively stop Swampert. I apologize that I gave you bad info. But don't desreguard Ludicolo, it's type combo is very useful as an EQ protection. It wouldn't be a bad choice.

Mr. King, yes I made a mistake, but you have made plenty in the past too. I know how to show humility, and in this case I needed some. But you could learn to show some too. No one, myself obviously included, is perfect.

As a general finisher, it would be better for everyone if all advice I give in future on Gyrados is ignored.

actually im perfect naa im joking. but even better than giving bad advice on gyarados, you could go out and try one. they are pretty good. it would also increase your experience as a pokemon trainer.



and PKLG, ludicolo would be a good choice. its type combo is very good. it would benefit your team.