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Why doesn't it work?

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Finbar

Well-Known Member
Initially this team won me a fair amount of battles but more recently its just been loss after loss. So if anyone wants to help me that would be cool.



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Roserade (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Toxic Spikes
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Fire]
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It sleeps faster things and toxic spikes slower things with it able to set up two layers with its sash. Basically I got fed up of swampert leads being so boring against me so now I use this as revenge.

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Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Thunderpunch
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
- Bullet Punch
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Incredibly powerful priority attack with bullet punch - I use this over Scizor because of its typing and thunderpunch.

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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Toxic
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Stealth Rock
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Combined with zapdos makes a viable defnesive team blissey takes all the Ice beams aimed at zapdos and zapdos takes the earthquakes.
Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP/228 Def/32 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Roost
- Heat Wave
- Roar
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Needed a Phazer so this was a good pokemon to do that good Scizor counter which is alway great in this metagame.

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Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Earth Power
- Explosion
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Heatran takes the flamethrowers etc aimed at roserade and metagross and hits back extremly hard. Fairly standard moveset here.

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Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 136 HP/156 Def/216 Spd
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Rapid Spin

Gets rid of entry hazards kills mixapes and gyara very nice pokemon to finish the game with.

Any help appreciated.
 
The only thing that really pops out at me is that you have 4 pokemon that use special attacks. Putting Blissy aside, the only thing that could take down a special wall on your team is a Metagross. That would be my onnly concern if I had this team. I hope this helped. ^^
 
I can see what you mean I ofen have problems with curselax etc. Any suggestions what to do about it?
 
Well, tbh you lack recovery.
As Clone said, Metagross is the only one breaking Special walls, so Metagross needs to stay alive if your team is faced by a Special wall. Wish / Protect Blissey is a nice option here.
 
The only thing that really pops out at me is that you have 4 pokemon that use special attacks. Putting Blissy aside, the only thing that could take down a special wall on your team is a Metagross. That would be my onnly concern if I had this team. I hope this helped. ^^
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I totally agree, if you have ever met a Blissey then I bet Metagross would have taken it down whilst the rest of your pokemon couldn't harm it. I suggest maybe making one of your special sweepers more physical.

Also I think you are a bit weak to common types of attacks. Sure you have a few resistances but most pokemon have more than one kind of attack. You also only have 1 immunity to ground and two weaknesses to it. So you are pretty left open against Heatrans with Fire Blast and Earth Power, and theres also Dragons with Fire Blast and Earthquake like Salamence, Dragonite and Flygon.

To solve this i think you should use a Heracross, yes a Heracross instead of Metagross, yes i repeat a Heracross instead of a Metagross. How come nobody uses Heracross anymore? Heracross seals your fighting resistances, elimanates your slight weakness to ground, and still keeps a little Physical sweeper there among all the specials.

If you wouldn't like another choice scarfer set use this Heracross

Heracross @ Life Orb
Ability: Guts
Nature: jolly
Evs: 252 atk / 252 spe / 6 spdef
Swords Dance
Close Combat
Megahorn
Stone Edge

With that done it still leaves you with alot of special attackers and you could easily be walled by Snorlax and Blissey.
To stop this i reccomend getting rid of Blissey as it seems the odd one out as everything else is designed to attack whilst Blissey is kinda...Seismic toss, heals a bit...?

Instead of Blissey i think a Kingdra can help solve a bit of a fire problem and also give a little physical addition to your team. Kingdra can also take advantage of Rain Dance teams and gives some nice x 4 resistances aswell as only having one weakness to Dragon which can be handled easily by your team. Kingdra also has some nice defences which can kinda make up for the loss of Blissey. I HATE BLISSEY, I THINK IT IS A BLOB FOR PEOPLE TO HIDE BEHIND, BE A MAN!

Here is the Kingdra set i think shuld be used:

Kingdra @ Leftovers
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Adamant
Evs: 252 atk / 252 spe / 4 def
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Outrage
Yawn

If you take my advice and make these changes your team weakness and resistance chart should look like this:

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Also if you explained your pokemon, what they are doing there, how they help the team it would really help everyone to rate it as we would understand where your coming from with this.
 
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Ok thanks for the help I will see what changes I can do.
 
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