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Dunno if this is already a thing, but I just had a thought. What if God exists and judges us just as the bible says, but with one key difference.

Suppose he determines whether or not an individual can got to heaven according to intellect and reasoning skills, as opposed to faith.

Say he tests this by creating a universe with self-contained physical and logical restrictions that add up to ensure that his very existence is an impossibility, then adds organised religion with no logical justification for its validity. With these conditions established, He simply damns anybody who is taken in by the dogmatic nonsense espoused by theists, and rewards those who think for themselves.

Please no flaming or over-aggressive responses. This is just food for thought, not an attack on religion.
 
It's a thought. I'm a Christian, and I'll post my thoughts on this later (I'm not the super-conservative type of Christian, though; like I said, I'll post more thoughts on this later).
 
Can you repeat that in Idiot?
 
overlordmewtwo said:
It's a thought. I'm a Christian, and I'll post my thoughts on this later (I'm not the super-conservative type of Christian, though; like I said, I'll post more thoughts on this later).
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Wow, this is a high-quality post.

Anyway, how do the mentally-retarded people fit into all this? It's not their fault they were born with a handicap, but yet they go to hell because of it?
 
I was referring to the actual Christian belief that homosexuality is a sin. It wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.
 
I don't think people should go to heaven just because they're more intelligent than others, but are you trying to say that Charles Darwin has a religious basis in his own theories?
Even in Heaven, it's eat or be eaten?
 
That would be a nice thought, but I'd change "God" into something else for this. Like a law of physics instead of a living and thinking being. Because I don't see how a being could live forever and be mighty and all jolly.
 
...Do you really think that God (or any other god, for that matter) would be like that?

Say that you're something like a politician. It's basically like killing the people who support you and giving power to people who don't. Heck, I don't think even a human would do that.
 
Flame Mistress said:
It's basically like killing the people who support you and giving power to people who don't. Heck, I don't think even a human would do that.
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Not necessarily. What you are saying implies that all smart people don't believe in God.
 
That actually makes a lot of sense. God would have to be pretty selfish and sensitive to only allow those into heaven who believe in him, and the others can literally go to hell, regardless of other qualities.
 
This is very compelling. A world in which God tests our very sense of being human. That is, we can only believe what we see. Quite the ultimate test.


However, this assumes that Christianity is the only "correct" religion. What about cultures in which Christianity, or at least, one without a monotheism, don't even exist? Are their systems of beliefs invalid? Are they damned for just following their own religions?

Also, God didn't invent organized religion. People did. People invented ways to interpret God's existence through creating organized religion.
 
Gelatino95 said:
That actually makes a lot of sense. God would have to be pretty selfish and sensitive to only allow those into heaven who believe in him, and the others can literally go to hell, regardless of other qualities.
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(just wanted to point something out here, I'm not getting into the main part, just replying to this

God actually doesn't send anyone to hell. It's sin that separates us from God, Hell was intended for the devil and all his followers, but once Adam and Eve rebelled against God, we lost our innocence. Of God let sinners into Heaven, then it would become as polluted, ugly, and hateful as the world today-even worse, because everyone would live forever.

In the beginning, God created men to become His children. The Bible says mankind has the capabilities to be better than the angels themselves, and that was his plan from the beginning, to let Man, made in His image, be part of His family. Once Adam and Eve sinned, His plan got messed up. So, He created the Jewish law to protect people from Hell. That's what the giant, unattainable law and blood sacrifices were for. The innocence of the lambs that were slaughtered on our behalf by the priests kept us form hell.

Jesus was the messiah, and Him dying on the cross for us, a perfect man, was the ultimate blood sacrifice. The only thing that's stopping us from getting to heaven is doubt. God just wants us to trust in God, believe in Him, try to love our neighbor, and confess our sins, and we'll be allowed into Heaven. I don't understand why everyone thinks God's selfish. If He wanted, He could blast every in-believer out of existence in a Heartbeat. But He puts up with us anyway, in the hope we'll one day become a Christian by trusting in Him.

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*phew* That was a lot of typing. I'm not trying to stuff my beliefs down your throats, I just wanted to say what I believe.
 
i personally believe God is energy in a state that can be transformed very easily, maybe that was the origin of big bang. I mean Matter is made from energy.
 
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