^So, not as a sweeper, but more as a offensive support? This way you need to be sure you can knock out any Fire-type pokémon before they can hit you with a Sunboosted STAB'ed Fire-type move. Having said that, a Fire Blast careeing (sorry for noncorrect spelling) Lati can hurt Excadrill a lot.
-
Hi all. We have had reports of member's signatures being edited to include malicious content. You can rest assured this wasn't done by staff and we can find no indication that the forums themselves have been compromised.
However, remember to keep your passwords secure. If you use similar logins on multiple sites, people and even bots may be able to access your account.
We always recommend using unique passwords and enable two-factor authentication if possible. Make sure you are secure. -
Be sure to join the discussion on our discord at: Discord.gg/serebii
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Community POTW #33
- Thread starter Serebii
- Start date
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
PokefanTez
Well-Known Member
to Timmahx: The Latis aren't uber.
Another counter that people seem to be forgetting is Heatran with air balloon. He pulls in when Excadrill uses earthquake, then can kill with a stab fire attack or two. I know that fire blast will OHKO assuming max SATK Heatran and Min SDEF Excadrill.
Another counter that people seem to be forgetting is Heatran with air balloon. He pulls in when Excadrill uses earthquake, then can kill with a stab fire attack or two. I know that fire blast will OHKO assuming max SATK Heatran and Min SDEF Excadrill.
caninobranco
Member
I think Gliscor is the best Excadrill counter, immune to earthquake and neutral to rock slide, immune to sandstorm damage and can run an abillity that gets advantage from Sandstorm (making Rock Slide accuracy even less reliable) and can destroy Excadrill with STAB Earthquakes, so a Pokemon who can kill Gliscor is a good partner for Excadrill, Landorus with Hidden Power Ice and SATK evs can take care of him as well as Swampert with STAB water atacks (listing only pokes with Sandstorm immunity), Mamoswine although hitting Gliscor's highest defense can still destroy him with Icicle Drop or even Ice Shard.
Also for partner Excadrill wants something to beat fighting pokemons, Gliscor with a flying atack is a good poke to do this as well as Magic Guard Reuniclus (who is the best Conkeldurr counter IMO), for fire pokemons normally Tyranitar who is almost always present due to his Sand Stream can counter them very safely due to fire resistance and good bulkyness.
Also for partner Excadrill wants something to beat fighting pokemons, Gliscor with a flying atack is a good poke to do this as well as Magic Guard Reuniclus (who is the best Conkeldurr counter IMO), for fire pokemons normally Tyranitar who is almost always present due to his Sand Stream can counter them very safely due to fire resistance and good bulkyness.
Last edited:
WeatherEffectRain
Arm Wrestle?
^So, not as a sweeper, but more as a offensive support? This way you need to be sure you can knock out any Fire-type pokémon before they can hit you with a Sunboosted STAB'ed Fire-type move. Having said that, a Fire Blast careeing (sorry for noncorrect spelling) Lati can hurt Excadrill a lot.
Dude, it's called switching. IN Ubers, Excadrill, atleast how I've used it, is for taking out some troublesome opponents when they're at low HP, and Spinning. Revenge and/or Spin. Simple.
But Exca is really good in Ubers, just try it out. Play it right and it's a winning player.
Countering Excadrill
Gardevoir can switch in, trace your Sand Rush and burn you.
Gardevoir has inferior Base Speed, so Exca, very likely, still has the first shot. However, that notion brings up another counter to Sand Rush Exca's rampage: Trick Room.
Doubled Speed means you move slower in Trick Room. Bronzong is bulky enough to throw one up, allowing slow Pokemon to get their revenge on the Sand Rushing bully. This makes the field of counters a wide open free-for-all:
-Bulky and slow(-ish) Water Types with Sandstorm protection like Slowbro/king with Leftovers, Quagsire, Swampert, Seismitoad, and Carracosta
-EQ-immune Steel Types like Skarmory, Magnet Rise Metagross, Magnet Rise Magnezone, Levitate Bronzong
-Sandstorm immune slow-runners like Rampardos, Rhyperior, Steelix, Camerupt, Torterra, Golurk, Magic Guard Clefable, Magic Guard Reuniclus, Cloud Nine Lickilicky, and Cloud Nine-taria
In a Trick Room situation, Excadrill is extra-screwed. The problem is that many of Exca's potential allies are also mentioned in there. Having low Speed, most of Exca's Rock, Ground, and/or Steel Type partners can turn Trick Room into their advantage and stall it out. Hippowdon loves the flipped Speed with its Base 47, as does Tyranitar with its Base 61.
^So, not as a sweeper, but more as a offensive support? This way you need to be sure you can knock out any Fire-type pokémon before they can hit you with a Sunboosted STAB'ed Fire-type move. Having said that, a Fire Blast careeing (sorry for noncorrect spelling) Lati can hurt Excadrill a lot.
Nope, fire blast carrying Lati@s can't hurt Excadrill.
In fact, Fire Blast carrying Lati@s can't hurt anything.
Because Lati@s don't get fire blast!!1!!!!1
Something commonly ignored is the use of agility sweepers who are actualy very effective this generation. Zapdos, Lucario, Kingdra (rain dance), Terrakion, and others are capable of boosting after which they outspeed and KO the mole. Also works wonderfuly against Venasuar and Sawsbuck in sun who make use of their Chlorophyl abilities to sweep. Zapdos is of particular note because hes capable of operating well in all three weather conditions.
Alfred the Second
Dracoflare
,Cofagrius' Mummy ability ruins Excadrill,.
Err sorry but mummy isnt activated when earthquake is used,and please don't talk about shadowclaw.
Dude, it's called switching. IN Ubers, Excadrill, atleast how I've used it, is for taking out some troublesome opponents when they're at low HP, and Spinning. Revenge and/or Spin. Simple.
But Exca is really good in Ubers, just try it out. Play it right and it's a winning player.
I agree with excadrill being good in ubers,except maintaining sand in Ubers is very difficult since Ttar will never be able to take on either of kyogre or groudon 1 v1.But yeah if used cleverly...Excadrill can own stuff in Ubers too.
Last edited:
It seems that the 4 standard attacking moves to have on an Excadrill set are Earthquake, Rock Slide, X-Scissor, and Shadow Claw. I'd like to point out a counter for Excadrill...
Landorus: Immune to Earthquake, Resists X-Scissor, Normally Affected by Rock Slide and Shadow Claw. Landorus can switch in and take no damage on an Earthquake by Excadrill, then hit right back with a Sand Force boosted Earthquake of its own, easily OHKOing Excadrill. (because who in their right mind wouldn't run Excadrill without SandStorm?) Probably bulky enough to take an unSTABed Rock Slide.
Landorus: Immune to Earthquake, Resists X-Scissor, Normally Affected by Rock Slide and Shadow Claw. Landorus can switch in and take no damage on an Earthquake by Excadrill, then hit right back with a Sand Force boosted Earthquake of its own, easily OHKOing Excadrill. (because who in their right mind wouldn't run Excadrill without SandStorm?) Probably bulky enough to take an unSTABed Rock Slide.
WeatherEffectRain
Arm Wrestle?
^Shadow Claw isn't standard, it's very rarely used. Return is typically placed over it. Rapid Spin sometimes there, too.
@Dracoflare: Scarf Exca and do as such. Sand doesn't need to be up all the time to use Excadrill, it just makes it a heck of alot better.
@Dracoflare: Scarf Exca and do as such. Sand doesn't need to be up all the time to use Excadrill, it just makes it a heck of alot better.
^Shadow Claw isn't standard, it's very rarely used. Return is typically placed over it. Rapid Spin sometimes there, too.
@Dracoflare: Scarf Exca and do as such. Sand doesn't need to be up all the time to use Excadrill, it just makes it a heck of alot better.
Hmmmm... I haven't seen Return on any Excadrill movesets in the metagame. Also, on second thought, Gliscor would probably be a better Ground/Flying counter with base defense at 125 over Landorus' 90.
WeatherEffectRain
Arm Wrestle?
Well, they both force Exca out. Landorus has Sand Force EQ to smack Excadrill around with. Or it could use some other move if you're on a balloon, but Landorus is still quite useful.
Gliscor is just a tad different being it's got that Defence, and it's EQ isn't quite as powerful. Either way, they're some of the top counters.
Gliscor is just a tad different being it's got that Defence, and it's EQ isn't quite as powerful. Either way, they're some of the top counters.
Also, some more counters:
Skarmory breaks a possible balloon with Brave Bird then Whirlwinds it away.
Bronzong can take anything that Excadrill has to offer, except a +2 X-Scissor. Bronzong could also K.O. Excadrill if Attack EV's are invested in it.
Heatran, with an Air Balloon, can survive a +2 Rock Slide and OHKO with Fire Blast.
Breloom or Conkeldurr can take out Excadrill with a STAB priority Mach Punch.
Lucario could K.O. Excadrill with a STAB priority Vacuum Wave, and not be "buffeted by the sandstorm" like Conkeldurr or Breloom would be.
EDIT: Hitmontop can revenge kill with an LO, STAB, Technician Mach Punch.
Skarmory breaks a possible balloon with Brave Bird then Whirlwinds it away.
Bronzong can take anything that Excadrill has to offer, except a +2 X-Scissor. Bronzong could also K.O. Excadrill if Attack EV's are invested in it.
Heatran, with an Air Balloon, can survive a +2 Rock Slide and OHKO with Fire Blast.
Breloom or Conkeldurr can take out Excadrill with a STAB priority Mach Punch.
Lucario could K.O. Excadrill with a STAB priority Vacuum Wave, and not be "buffeted by the sandstorm" like Conkeldurr or Breloom would be.
EDIT: Hitmontop can revenge kill with an LO, STAB, Technician Mach Punch.
Last edited:
multi-scale
Well-Known Member
Jolly Excadrill can counter most standard Excadrills. Since most don't need the speed boost thanks to Sand Rush, they usually are Adamant nature. A Jolly Excadrill can come in on a death and then either KO with EQ or get up a Swords Dance on a switch.
Alfred the Second
Dracoflare
@above people used jolly in the beginning and then realised that except for speed tie against Other excadrill or blaziken(now banned on smogon) at+2 it isn't useful.Hence adamant>jolly.Your jolly Excadrill won't be a proper check as the opposing user may use jolly himself and you lose the speed tie.
Also stuff like conkeldurr are not counters.They are called checks.Gliscor and skarmory are the only true counters for excadrill.
Also stuff like conkeldurr are not counters.They are called checks.Gliscor and skarmory are the only true counters for excadrill.
WeatherEffectRain
Arm Wrestle?
Landorus counters pretty well, because if you're not using a Balloon Sand Force STAB EQ x2 = Dead Mole. Plus immunity to EQ, resistance to X-Scissor and Neutral to other moves mean that he's a good counter, yup.
But yeh about the checks otherwise.
But yeh about the checks otherwise.
Landorus counters pretty well, because if you're not using a Balloon Sand Force STAB EQ x2 = Dead Mole. Plus immunity to EQ, resistance to X-Scissor and Neutral to other moves mean that he's a good counter, yup.
But yeh about the checks otherwise.
+2 LO Frustration/Return OHKOs Landorus.
Not a counter, but an okay check if it hasn't taken any prior damage, Exca isn't at +2, or you've determined Exca isn't using X-Scissor.
WeatherEffectRain
Arm Wrestle?
Okay, so more checks than counters.
What do we do now?
What do we do now?
- Status
- Not open for further replies.