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Double Team - Cheap?

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KageNaruto

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I heard some people considered double team a cheap move and want to battle without it.

Is it really cheap and sometimes banned, cause I'm considering using it but if indeed is cheap/banned i might not.
 
People only complain about double-team cause it's irritating. Obviously they don't understand that, omg, it's SUPPOSED to be. It's an annoyer move, meant to be put on annoyer pokemon, and tanks.

If these retards want to get rid of Double Team, then they should get rid of Toxic, Recover, and Protect too, cause they can be just as annoying.

Bunch of idiots IMO.
 
^ You really don't know what your talking about. Toxic, Recover, and Protect are nothing like Double Team. Don't use it or people won't want to battle you.
 
^^ or don't tell them that you have it
 
You can still battle people with DT, but many tournaments here will disqualify you if you use it. It's not just that it's irritating and annoying, it's also considered unbalanced by many people. That's why many tournaments ban it. I was going to use DT for a while, but I decided against it because I want to battle as much people as possible and not using DT helps me do that.
 
What do people find more cheap, sleep status or DT? and yeah, if at least 35% of people play without it, i guess i wont use it
 
I'm considering using it in non wifi battles such as local friends. I love annoying moves.
 
KageNaruto said:
What do people find more cheap, sleep status or DT? and yeah, if at least 35% of people play without it, i guess i wont use it
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Do you mean sleep clause? Which says you can't have more than one of the opponents pokemon sleeping at the same time (this doesn't count if the opponent uses rest). I've never seen people have a problem with one pokemon getting put to sleep. The sleep clause is about as common as a DT ban, sleep clause might be a bit more common.
 
Akboy said:
Do you mean sleep clause? Which says you can't have more than one of the opponents pokemon sleeping at the same time (this doesn't count if the opponent uses rest). I've never seen people have a problem with one pokemon getting put to sleep. The sleep clause is about as common as a DT ban, sleep clause might be a bit more common.
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Well I meant are sleep-inducing moves like Sleep Powder or Hypnosis also banned or considered cheap?
 
They're not banned b/c there is the sleep clause, which only allows 1 pokemon to be asleep at a time (pokemon that are asleep by rest don't count)
 
Raikou77 said:
They're not banned b/c there is the sleep clause, which only allows 1 pokemon to be asleep at a time (pokemon that are asleep by rest don't count)
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Theres something in the game that makes it this way? Wow I didnt know
 
Here's my vent to let out steam at the stupidity for people hating Double Team.

Double Team is NOT unbalanced. You may feel that its cheap if your team isn't prepared against it. But then again, an EV-Trained Choice Scarf Heracross can be just as cheap if you're a casual gamer because you're not prepared for it unless you just happen to have a faster Pokemon that can use a Flying Type move, which would be VERY unlikely.

It's balanced by the MANY COMMON unmissable moves, such as Aerial Ace, Magical Leaf, which are both seen very commonly. There are also many other viable options, such as Swift, Shadow Punch, Faint Attack, Shock Wave, Aura Sphere, and Vital Throw.

Other moves can also negate its effects, such as Odor Sleuth and Foresight whose SPECIFIC PURPOSE is to negate the effects of Double Team and its other correspondents which do the same effect, such as Minimize.

Not to mention, other moves can remove any sort of status effect such as the common HAZE, WHIRLWIND, ROAR.

Double Team is balanced more than you fools can say. There are SOOOOO many options to counter this move, yet obviously you label it as 'cheap' because it's difficult to counter it unless you have at least ONE (Yes, just 1 will work fine.) way that was listed above. Haze, Whirlwind, and Roar are the easiest options to choose and also work for any other status change which are also common. I'm sure that among those people who label Double Team as cheap are those who even dedicate an ENTIRE POKEMON to counter another, such as a Sub-Punching Tyranitar to counter Blisseys. Why not dedicate an ENTIRE MOVE on just ONE POKEMON to counter Double Team, huh? I'm sure people woudn't complain if they had a Whirldwind Skarmory on their team, because they can easily counter any Double Teamer.

The stupidity among banning Double Team in tournaments is BEYOND stupidity. It's just plain retarded. However strong or well-breeded their Pokemon are, they consider Double Team to cheap? Well, at least learn how to use the cheap counters against it instead of crapping out and banning the move from use because you're too stupid to counter it.
 
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KageNaruto, There isn't something in-game that enforces the clause (sorry if I confused you), its just that you should follow it when you battle.
 
Even though everything you said makes sense, how many % of people still prefer to play without it (Reffering to Naetoru's post)
 
Naetoru, you're my new best friend :)
 
Naetoru said:
Not to mention, other moves can remove any sort of status effect such as the common HAZE, WHIRLWIND, ROAR.
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You do know that Whirlwind and Roar can miss right? Other than Haze, the only counter is your own DT poke, and if everyone used DT all the time the metagame wouldn't be fun at all.
 
Naetoru's post wins the thread. DT is one of the reasos that my Skarmory knows Whirlwind and Aerial Ace rather than Roar and Drill Peck. My Dugtrio also knows Aerial Ace and my Pelipper knows Shock Wave.
 
Well, following Naetoru's post:

- Hazers can easily counter DT.
- Pseudohazers can do a less effective job, but it is possible.
- Any Phisycal Attacker prepared to go against ghosts can counter DT.
- Any sweeper with enough speed can counter DT, given that the sweeper can OHKO the DTer.
- Any sweeper with no-miss attacks can counter DT.

Those are 5 ways a DTer can be countered. Unbalanced? I think not, since there are many other situations with less alternatives.

Plus, DTers give a reason to stop the competitors to keep using the same Pokemons over and over again. Oh look! You have a Blissey too! And a Heracross! And a Heatran! And a- I can go on.
 
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