evolve time

[King Of Steel]

Released a Pokémon... He hasn't done that since Pidgeot, yes. You can definitely look forward to him keeping Staraptor (when Staravia does evolve).

And I too, would like Aipom to not evolve, but what's the point of the writers making Ash bring Aipom to Sinnoh, if it weren't for the fact that it (or for some of you, she) could evolve only in Sinnoh. It'd be a dumb move for them to bring Aipom to Sinnoh for no reason.

 

[King Of Steel]

Released a Pokémon... He hasn't done that since Pidgeot, yes. You can definitely look forward to him keeping Staraptor (when Staravia does evolve).

And I too, would like Aipom to not evolve, but what's the point of the writers making Ash bring Aipom to Sinnoh, if it weren't for the fact that it (or for some of you, she) could evolve only in Sinnoh. It'd be a dumb move for them to bring Aipom to Sinnoh for no reason.

 

[Dax]

That's my point.^_^

He doesn't release pokemons anymore so I guess he's not going to release one now. Paul is the one that releases, not Ash.

 

[King Of Steel]

But Ash did release his Pokémon for a valid reason of some sorts (Butterfree for mating purposes, Primeape because Anthony wanted to train it, and Pidgeot for protecting the bird Pokémon). Paul releases Pokémon simply because he thinks they're weak. At least he doesn't do that to his more experienced Pokémon.

 

[niedude]

But Ash did release his Pokémon for a valid reason of some sorts (Butterfree for mating purposes, Primeape because Anthony wanted to train it, and Pidgeot for protecting the bird Pokémon). Paul releases Pokémon simply because he thinks they're weak. At least he doesn't do that to his more experienced Pokémon.

Well duh, what would be the point? I mean paul does the right thing, pokemon like to be in the wild and think of the cost for food and other stuff that paul would have to pay since his pokemon dont go to the lab? jkjkjk but i do think he can release pokemon just because theyr are weak BUT he should still treat them a little better(I dont want him to lose the bad assness)

And i think primeapes release was just cause the writters didnt see ash using it, I know I wouldnt let an almost complete stranger train the pokemon that kicked his pokemons ***!!!

 

[GreatLiver]

Well duh, what would be the point? I mean paul does the right thing, pokemon like to be in the wild and think of the cost for food and other stuff that paul would have to pay since his pokemon dont go to the lab? jkjkjk but i do think he can release pokemon just because theyr are weak BUT he should still treat them a little better(I dont want him to lose the bad assness)

And i think primeapes release was just cause the writters didnt see ash using it, I know I wouldnt let an almost complete stranger train the pokemon that kicked his pokemons ***!!!

Where are you getting the idea Shinji's pokemon don't go to a lab. Just because Oak didn't give him his starter someone did, and his pokemon probably go there.

 

[niedude]

Where are you getting the idea Shinji's pokemon don't go to a lab. Just because Oak didn't give him his starter someone did, and his pokemon probably go there.

theres a thread about shinjis starter, go there and u will see most ppl think he either got turtwig from nurse joy or from the wild, not from a prof. not to mention may did get them from a prof but kept them at the gym(its different i know but want to point it)

 

[cassius335]

Ponyta? Where was the last time we saw that one?

Exactly. Given it's the only other Fire-type line in the Sinnoh games, you'd think someone would have one.

And yeah, Magmortar is just too much and everyone is just coming up with that idea because it seems that the fandom thinks there's a rule in the anime that Ash has to get a water pokemon and a fire pokemon always.

Correct me If I'm wrong, but since the ep Ash got Charmander, the only time prior to D/P someone on the main trio hasn't had a Fire-type was that short period (134 to 141 inclusive) between Charizard leaving and Cyndaquil joining. Dawn has Water covered, but the main cast is badly overdue for a Fire Pokemon in the ranks.

 

[Dax]

Exactly. Given it's the only other Fire-type line in the Sinnoh games, you'd think someone would have one.



Correct me If I'm wrong, but since the ep Ash got Charmander, the only time prior to D/P someone on the main trio hasn't had a Fire-type was that short period (134 to 141 inclusive) between Charizard leaving and Cyndaquil joining. Dawn has Water covered, but the main cast is badly overdue for a Fire Pokemon in the ranks.

I fail to see how Ponyta being in the Sinnoh Dex means someones has to get it. It doesn't make sense to me.

There's nothing stating that someone needs a fire type in the anime. I don't see the big deal. There are so many types and yet we have to see the same ones over and over?

If a fire types enters the team, fine and if it doesn't then fine as well.

 

[cassius335]

I fail to see how Ponyta being in the Sinnoh Dex means someones has to get it. It doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe because early on in the Sinnoh games there are exactly two choices if you want a Fire-type, so everyone and their mother that started with Piplup or Turtwig will only have one option for catching a Fire Pokemon in the wild: Ponyta. Granted, you could get something off Wi-Fi, but that's still a significant amount of people with a Fire Horse on their team.

There's nothing stating that someone needs a fire type in the anime. I don't see the big deal. There are so many types and yet we have to see the same ones over and over?

If a fire types enters the team, fine and if it doesn't then fine as well.

While I grant you we could probably survive without one (and I've got nothing against the trio getting new types into their mix), there are two considerations:

1) Thanks to the starters, the first three types everyone gets exposed to are Water, Grass and Fire. And the "We should have new types" argument didn't stop the first two showing up, did it? Dawn has two Water, Ash has his Grass-type and no-one on the main trio has Fire, so said main Trio is missing one part of the most basic elemental triangle in the game. Before getting too exotic, might be an idea to make sure the bases are covered.

2) The Steel Gym coming up. At the moment, the only strategy available to Ash is "Aipom's Focus Punch". Somehow, I don't call that variety. A Fire-type might just come in handy.

There's an Ice Gym too, for that matter.

Look, I'n not saying Ash definately, absolutely needs a Fire-type, but it sure as hell wouldn't hurt for someone on the team to have some Fire Power, just in case it gets cold or something...

 

[niedude]

Maybe because early on in the Sinnoh games there are exactly two choices if you want a Fire-type, so everyone and their mother that started with Piplup or Turtwig will only have one option for catching a Fire Pokemon in the wild: Ponyta. Granted, you could get something off Wi-Fi, but that's still a significant amount of people with a Fire Horse on their team.



While I grant you we could probably survive without one (and I've got nothing against the trio getting new types into their mix), there are two considerations:

1) Thanks to the starters, the first three types everyone gets exposed to are Water, Grass and Fire. And the "We should have new types" argument didn't stop the first two showing up, did it? Dawn has two Water, Ash has his Grass-type and no-one on the main trio has Fire, so said main Trio is missing one part of the most basic elemental triangle in the game. Before getting too exotic, might be an idea to make sure the bases are covered.

2) The Steel Gym coming up. At the moment, the only strategy available to Ash is "Aipom's Focus Punch". Somehow, I don't call that variety. A Fire-type might just come in handy.

There's an Ice Gym too, for that matter.

Look, I'n not saying Ash definately, absolutely needs a Fire-type, but it sure as hell wouldn't hurt for someone on the team to have some Fire Power, just in case it gets cold or something...

Whada u know, ur right!!! fire types are the best in my book

 

[dman_dustin]

Maybe because early on in the Sinnoh games there are exactly two choices if you want a Fire-type, so everyone and their mother that started with Piplup or Turtwig will only have one option for catching a Fire Pokemon in the wild: Ponyta. Granted, you could get something off Wi-Fi, but that's still a significant amount of people with a Fire Horse on their team.



While I grant you we could probably survive without one (and I've got nothing against the trio getting new types into their mix), there are two considerations:

1) Thanks to the starters, the first three types everyone gets exposed to are Water, Grass and Fire. And the "We should have new types" argument didn't stop the first two showing up, did it? Dawn has two Water, Ash has his Grass-type and no-one on the main trio has Fire, so said main Trio is missing one part of the most basic elemental triangle in the game. Before getting too exotic, might be an idea to make sure the bases are covered.

2) The Steel Gym coming up. At the moment, the only strategy available to Ash is "Aipom's Focus Punch". Somehow, I don't call that variety. A Fire-type might just come in handy.

There's an Ice Gym too, for that matter.

Look, I'n not saying Ash definately, absolutely needs a Fire-type, but it sure as hell wouldn't hurt for someone on the team to have some Fire Power, just in case it gets cold or something...

I had a dream where my Ponyta evolved while at Professor Oak's lab but it was funny at first I thought it was Ash's Ponyta (I woke up to realize Ash didn't have one)

 

[Dax]

Maybe because early on in the Sinnoh games there are exactly two choices if you want a Fire-type, so everyone and their mother that started with Piplup or Turtwig will only have one option for catching a Fire Pokemon in the wild: Ponyta. Granted, you could get something off Wi-Fi, but that's still a significant amount of people with a Fire Horse on their team.

You are mixing things. This is not the games, Ash is not going to get a fire type via Wi-fi. And still fire pokemons can appear in the anime wherever they want. It's always been like that.

2) The Steel Gym coming up. At the moment, the only strategy available to Ash is "Aipom's Focus Punch". Somehow, I don't call that variety. A Fire-type might just come in handy.

There's an Ice Gym too, for that matter.

There's nothing stoping Ash's pokemon in learning a fire attack plus fighting beats ice and we can count that Ash will have something new by that time.

Look, I'n not saying Ash definately, absolutely needs a Fire-type, but it sure as hell wouldn't hurt for someone on the team to have some Fire Power, just in case it gets cold or something...

Of course is not going to hurt anyone, specially in this season but we have to take in consideration that Ash is going to get new pokemons and Ponyta is not one. It's always about showcasing new pokemons and really the only choices are Heatran and we all know that's a no and Magmortar. And let's just put Chimchar in there. Not so much to choose from.

 

[Aldrius]

Well if the new episode title is any indication...

We could very well be seeing Chimchar evolving in a month or two...

 

[octoboy]

I would like to see turtwig to evolve into grotle, then torterra because I want to see a main pokemon who has to overcome a weakness in being slow. Because the little guy uses speed as an advantage over the big guy thing has been done to death (like the vermillion gym battle) people seem to worship speed. I want a main character who is slow, but still can be good. It would be original, and a new problem for Ash to face (unless he did in some season I missed).

Though I doubt that will happen. The anime writers don't seem to care about being interesting. Razor Raven says they care nothing about the quality of the show, and just use it to advertise the games.

 

[cassius335]

You are mixing things. This is not the games, Ash is not going to get a fire type via Wi-fi. And still fire pokemons can appear in the anime wherever they want. It's always been like that.

*sigh* What I mean is that (except maybe for Chimchar) Ponyta is probably the best known Fire-type in the 4th-gen games. Potentially, everyone that didn't want to wait for Magmortar to get a Fire-type. has one. Surely that would earn it some screen time in the anime?

There's nothing stoping Ash's pokemon in learning a fire attack plus fighting beats ice and we can count that Ash will have something new by that time.

So, any mysterious "something new" aside, you basically are relying entirely on Focus Punch to carry Ash through? And No, Aipom using Fire Punch instead does not count as varied.

Of course is not going to hurt anyone, specially in this season but we have to take in consideration that Ash is going to get new pokemons and Ponyta is not one. It's always about showcasing new pokemons and really the only choices are Heatran and we all know that's a no and Magmortar. And let's just put Chimchar in there. Not so much to choose from.

Weren't you saying just moments ago...

fire pokemons can appear in the anime wherever they want

Basically, anyone who says "Ash can't get X" is talking out their backsides. We just don't know what the writers have planned (Ok, the various "Ash must get X" crowds haven't been doing so well either, but the guy only has two slots left)

Someone on the group could easily get a Fire-type. Ponyta may be First gen, but it's gotta be one of the better known Poke's, just from game exposure. Surely that's maybe worth some showcase? Personally, I think it'd look great on Dawn's team, especially as Berklitz has one in the *****.

 

[Ivancapp]

Since there has been no trades since a lot of time, i guess Ash may capture a pokemo0n and trade it for a magmar, "may be....", this is one way of him getting a magmortor!.

 

[niedude]

Since there has been no trades since a lot of time, i guess Ash may capture a pokemo0n and trade it for a magmar, "may be....", this is one way of him getting a magmortor!.

If u have seen the anime, then u should know that some pomemon evolve withgout the items/stones/trades they normally would need. For example, how many sunflora, vaporeon, belossom and vilplumes and whatnot do u see in the wild? and mystys politoed evolved by putting on the king rock, just that he didnt need to be traded!

 

[Ivancapp]

If u have seen the anime, then u should know that some pomemon evolve withgout the items/stones/trades they normally would need. For example, how many sunflora, vaporeon, belossom and vilplumes and whatnot do u see in the wild? and mystys politoed evolved by putting on the king rock, just that he didnt need to be traded!

Oh sorry, but still, i just mentioned that being a way for him to get a magmortor.

 

[PaulFan1517]

Does anyone here except me believe that if volkner has a ampibom(i know i didn't spell it right) that ash's aipom wont evolve until around that very gym battle. Would the writers be crazy enough to do that to us instead of making it evolve earliers in the season?