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Prince Amrod

Prince Amrod

Dragon Tamer
This is the first time I've ever thought about making a competitive team so I apologise in advance if it is full of weakness and suchlike, I have tried to counter as many possible types as I can think of with the movesets. I also haven't looked into the items section yet to find out which items are advisable to use, which is why i haven't put any in. The EV's/IV's aren't in either as I have only been getting the level 1 versions ready for EV training at a later date and I don't know the IV's of any of them.
This isn't the order I will use them in, that order will vary from battle to battle

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Magmortar- Brave
Cross Chop
Thunder Punch
Sunny Day
Fire Punch

idea for this is to take out anything weak to it fast basically

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Electivire- Adamant
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake
Thunder Punch

with this moveset, i intend to take out any pokemon that are dragon types, flying types, other electric types alongside anything weak to electric

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Lucario- Modest
Calm Mind
Water Pulse
Rain Dance
Focus Blast

this moveset takes care of lucario's most used weakness, water to combat fire

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Altaria- Mild
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Dragon Dance
Dragon Pulse

ice beam to take down dragons quickly, flamethrower for any ice types thrown against it. dragon dance to up power and dragon pulse to make use of it

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Kingdra- Modest
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
Aurora Beam
Dragon Dance

Kingdra has no major weaknesses to note, except for a 2x to dragon so I have included aurora beam and dragon pulse to combat this threat. hydro pump- powerful water type move to hit on any fire types and suchlike

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Vaporeon- Modest
Blizzard
Haze
Aurora Beam
Hydro Pump

can take down any dragon/grass type with blizzard/aurora beam, anything weak to water with hydro pump and dig is solely intended to take care of vaporeons weakness to electric type pokemon
 
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Vaporeon- Modest
Ice Beam
Barrier/Wish
Surf
Hidden Power(Electric) Try this instead, and you need a description or else you might get infracted.
 
CROWN said:
Vaporeon- Modest
Ice Beam
Barrier/Wish
Surf
Hidden Power(Electric) Try this instead, and you need a description or else you might get infracted.
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Chances are the OP will get infracted, no evs is the main rulebreaker.
even if you haven't trained them yet we need ev's. just post what your team will look like.
also your natures are pretty bad.
magmortar is modest even though it runs a physical attack. modest ups you special attack and lowers your attack.
electivire needs mild to make use of t-bolt, otherwise you might as well as run the physical set.
lucario is bad. adamant or modest, physical or special never mixed. not on luke. choose your set.
sky attack on altaria what are you thinking :o
if kingdra is going to run a special set (although it is pretty redundant with the addition of platinum and dd outrage kingdra) it needs a modest nature.
and use the above suggested vaporeon.
 
First Timer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the first time I've ever thought about making a competitive team so I apologise in advance if it is full of weakness and suchlike said:
Modest[/B]
Cross Chop
Thunder Punch
Flamethrower
Hidden power(Ground)


Electivire- Hasty
Ice Punch
Choss Chop
Earthquake
Thunderbolt


Lucario- Mild
Shadow ball
Hidden Power(Electric)
Blaze Kick
Focus Blast


Altaria- Modest
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Sky Attack
Dragon Pulse


Kingdra- Timid
Hydro Pump
Dragon Pulse
Ice Beam
Agility


Vaporeon-Modest
Ice Beam
Wish/Barrier
Surf
Hidden Power(Ground).
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All changes are in bold and you need to add a description or you might get infracted. Hope I helped.
 
You don't have to have a description, it's just nice to tell us what the role of your pokemon are. Your magmortar moveset is utterly (sorry if i'm being offensive) pointless. Having three fire types and a physical move on a modest Magmortar is a little bit less than useless. Make it look more like this:

Prince Amrod said:
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Magmortar @ Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flame Body
IV's: 30 Atk / 30 Def
EV's: 252 SpA / 6 SpD / 252 Spe
Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hidden Power [Ice]

My first pokemon out into battle, basically designed to try and take out whatever they send out.
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What I changed is in bold.
That is taken straight from smogon, here's the link:http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/
Use it quick and change your opening thread before a mod sees you.

EDIT: Dammit, CROWN got in before me. That Magmortar moveset still has two physical moves, both of the special moves I mentioned have more power and will do more damage, and Cross Chop is only a little bit more accurate than Focus Blast. Choose either Hidden Power type.
 
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One actually I checked the rules he MUST have a description and Two I must say that moveset of yours TomstarRule is quite nice.
 
Don't thank me, thank Smogon.
I already said that in my original post.
 
CROWN said:
One actually I checked the rules he MUST have a description and Two I must say that moveset of yours TomstarRule is quite nice.
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It's a smogon standard :/
anyways i will repeat this
YOU
NEED
EV'S

there we go
also i'm surprised no-one else has noticed altaria has sky attack :(
anyways try this instead of your current altaria.
Altaria@choice specs (this is for your current idea a special attacker)
modest
6hp/252Satk/252Spd
~Draco Meteor
~Fire Blast
~Dragon Pulse
~Hidden Power [ICE]

lol another smoogn standard ^^
but i've never trained an altaria and probably don't intend to so yeah smogon works ^^
 
Right TomstarRule. When in doubt go to Smogon.
 
Seriously guys, I don't mean any offence here but if everyone relied on smogon for tiers/movesets/EV spreads, where would the individuality of the game go? I've seen several references to smogon on this site, and every time I've thought, "why?" Try being your own battler, come up with your own move combinations and rely on your own knowledge instead of being another smogon clone.
 
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Seriously guys, I don't mean any offence here but if everyone relied on smogon for tiers/movesets/EV spreads, where would the individuality of the game go? I've seen several references to smogon on this site, and every time I've thought, "why?" Try being your own battler, come up with your own move combinations and rely on your own knowledge instead of being another smogon clone.
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which is why people make their own sets.
but sometimes they just don't work.
and when you have a pokemon you reeallly want to use but you can't think of a set what are you going to do if you don't use smogon. you're going to fail.simple as that.
in other words yeah its fine to make your own sets. but when it just doesn't work for you, smogons always there to help.
 
Prince Amrod said:
Seriously guys, I don't mean any offence here but if everyone relied on smogon for tiers/movesets/EV spreads, where would the individuality of the game go? I've seen several references to smogon on this site, and every time I've thought, "why?" Try being your own battler, come up with your own move combinations and rely on your own knowledge instead of being another smogon clone.
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That's EXACTLY what we are DOING, but that does'nt mean we can't go to Smogon when we are idk STUMPED or need a little inspiration. Personally I HATE relying on Smogon for pretty much anything!! It's just that sometimes it is necessary when you can't figure out what else to do.
 
If you can't think of a set, change pokemon quite simply. I wanted to put an Alakazam in my team but because I could not find an appropriate moveset of my own, I scrapped it and decided on another pokemon instead. For me, smogon is far too relied on.
I read another thread on here about Garchomp, even with a yache berry, its still possible to take it out in 2 hits, maybe even 1 if the right attack is used. so why keep it in uber? because smogon says so. that's the way it appears to me and I apologise if I caused offence to anyone, that was not my intention.
 
How is it a n00b's thread? If it was meant to be an in-game team, I would have posted it there obviously, but I posted it here because I intend to use this team to battle with on a competitive level.
and please spell-check your posts before hitting the submit button. helped only has one d in it
 
How is it a n00b's thread
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You don't have EV's, no specific lead, no items = n00b thread that belongs in in-game. Note: It's best to have your EV's planned out before you put them on your pokemon cuz if they aren't any good or if someone tells you to change them, you're screwed >_>;; Leads are very important, you shouldn't just randomly pick a pokemon as a lead. Items are extremely important and without them, whether competitive or not, they belong in the in-game. If you seriously want this to be a competitive team then go read up on EV's, items, team-building, natures, and leads. Come back with a team after getting yourself familiarized with the environment and we will gladly rate your team ^_^
 
Yes, I don't have EV's, that is merely because I thought of this setup at 3am this morning and I didn't care to spend any more time planning out EV's at that time of night. why have a specific lead? posting a specific lead means you will lose every time if you come up against the pokemons weakness. So my intention was to change the lead as it suited me. Hardly a n00b-ish thing. so I haven't included items, I refer you to the first point I made.
I work as a breeder on pokemon and help other people get egg moves and natures as requested so I already know about them, same with EV's, team-building, choosing a lead is a matter of personal taste in my opinion. Items is the only aspect I haven't looked at merely because I haven't had the time to look at every single hold item in the 4th generation and compare them to the pokemon I chose in the time since I settled on those 6
 
Let's pretend you did a proper post with EVs, natures, and held items.

Even with that, your first 3 Pokemon are all x2 weak to Earthquake.

Also, no one to absorb sleep. This is less of a threat on Shoddy due to Hypnosis being 60%, but still a threat on Wi-Fi.

Without knowing about EVs, natures, and so on, there's no point in you posting here. Without telling us waht the EVs, natures, held items, and a description, we can't help yo much because there's nothing to rate. It pretty much boils down to move selection. And we can either say "omzers teh attaks rox0rz" or "l0l sux0rs movzers"

And your attacks are not the former.

No one ever uses Dig in a competitive battle. Remember your huge Earthquake weakness? It's even worse with someone who uses dig. Earthquake's power is DOUBLED when someone is underground. That's right. Base 100 attack becomes base 200.

It also just gives your opponent a free turn to switch to someone who is immune or resists, or set up.
 
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Prince Amrod said:
If you can't think of a set, change pokemon quite simply. I wanted to put an Alakazam in my team but because I could not find an appropriate moveset of my own, I scrapped it and decided on another pokemon instead. For me, smogon is far too relied on.
I read another thread on here about Garchomp, even with a yache berry, its still possible to take it out in 2 hits, maybe even 1 if the right attack is used. so why keep it in uber? because smogon says so. that's the way it appears to me and I apologise if I caused offence to anyone, that was not my intention.
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I agree with randomspot555. For example Gliscor could take out half your team in 3!!! turns.
 
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