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Hydration Station

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Dasdardly

Rare Occurence
Heello. First competitive RMT blah, blah, blah. Please, tear my team apart in every imaginable way. I want my eyes to bleed when I read your comments. Ok? Ok. :D

;186; ;340; ;131; ;205; :594: :617:​
So, Hydration Station. Pretty simple idea, really. With the introduction of the DW, a lot of my favorite pokes have been given this nifty ability that heals status as long as its raining. Sounds great to me!​

Enter Politoed
;186; Drizzletoed@Choice Specs
Drizzle (Duh.)
Bold (+Def, -Atk)
252 Spe/ 252 SAtk/ 6 HP
-Surf/ Hydro Pump
-Hypnosis
-Ice Beam
-Focus Blast
Here he is, the 'Toedmeister. He sets the rain up and then either tries to take out the enemy lead or tries to sleep and gets the hell outta dodge. Pretty standard. I do want more of a statustoed, though. I have Hydro Pump as a second because he already has Focus Miss.

;340; Whiscash@Muscle Band/ Life Orb
Hydration
Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
252 HP/ 188 Atk/ 70 Spe
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Rest
I've loved this guy since RSE; but, I've never used him. Now, with Hydration, he has a sweet niche. Switch in when predicting electric or something silly and DD up. Rest when neccessary and wake-up instantly!11 Then of course, sweep away. I'm not sure about the EVs, so any comments are welcome.

;131; Lapras@Life Orb/ Muscle Band
Hydration
Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 6 Def
-Curse
-Ice Shard
-Waterfall
-Rest
Lapras has great HP and good SDef along with Curse boosting her Def; thus making her a hard-hitting wall. She's got priority to get around the speed drop, too. HydroRest because its so cool.

;205; Forretress@Leftovers
Sturdy
Sassy (+SDef, -Spe)
252 HP/ 252 SDef/ 4 Def
-Toxic Spikes
-Spikes Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Volt Switch/
This guy, I know I want. I just don't know what to do with him. I don't know his stats, so I can't be sure where to put the EVs and as for the nature, it depends on whether I'm using Volt Switch or Gyro Ball. I went and looked at Blue Harvest's set >.>. I'm leaning towards Volt Switch.

;134; Vaporeon@Leftovers
Hydration
Bold (+Def, -Atk)
252 HP/ 188 Def/ 70 SDef
-Wish
-Rest
-Toxic
-Surf
Basic toxic-staller. The EVs looked good to me, haven't tried it out yet so, I don't know if they're 'correct'.

:598: Ferrothorn@Leftovers
Iron Barbs
Sassy (+SDef, -Spe)
252 HP/ 128 SDef/ 128 Def
-Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball
-Power Whip
New wall. Designed to take some pressure off of Forry's back. Iron barbs is a *****, check. Leech seed is a *****, check. Gyro ball is pretty strong, check. Power whip is stupid >.>, check.
So, that's my team, Hydration Station. Hope you enjoy(ed) it. Please rate/ comment. (Thanks for the continued responses, guys.)​
 
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Hydration isn't truly dominating unless it is combined with Rest. As redundant as it seems, litterally every pokemon with Hydration ought to have it. With Alomomola. You probably want to replace Protect with Rest, as it is better in most circumstances. Or maybe you could replace Wish with Rest (with so many Hydration+Rest pokemon, it is probably not very necessary. However Accelgor is very frail, making Rest not such a great move for it. Because of this, you either may want get a non-Hydration sweeper that is more powerful and synergizes better, or you can go all-out-stall and get a bulkier pokemon. Maybe you can take a middle route and go with medium frailty Swanna. She is one of the few with Hurricane, and she also gets HydrationRest. That would put you at a 4 water pokemon, but perhaps Whiscash can effectively counter the threat of Electric. And Forretress can wall against grass...
 
Alomomola with Rest over Protect would be basically the same/ better. I hadn't thought of Swanna with Hurricane, but it is quite Mediocre and Accelgor's really just there for emergency rain. I'll check Swanna out, definately,
Thanks! :D
 
You could run Vaporeon over Alomomola.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Hydration
Bold
(Not sure on EV spread, but it'd be something like 252 HP, and then defenses spread out, I guess?)

Baton Pass
Wish
Acid Armor
Surf

Last move could be used as whatever. Strategy is using Wish then switching OR if you know they'll switch or Vap can take the hit, you can AA, then Wish, then BP.
 
Nice team, but it could be destroyed with a grass type.
 
So, I've been trying this out in DW OU and I keep getting taken out by Fighting types. Oh yeah, and I suck. But that's a different story.
Anybody got an idea to get rid of Conkeldurr?
One last thing; I love that Alomomola. Aqua jet catches everone off guard :3
 
Still pointing out Vaporeon is more viable.
 
high five for using whiscash. I always loked the catfish :)

depending on the rules, you could try swift swim ludicolo to deal with grass types. I know youre trying to stick to the hydration theme though. also serves as a counter to other rain teams. BTW giga drain + life orb is pretty good
 
CloudVII said:
Still pointing out Vaporeon is more viable.
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I think Alomomola does what Vaporeon would do better. It has more HP so it passes bigger wishes; which is what I want it for. The 110 base SAtk would be helpful, but I don't know if it would be helpful enough.
All in all, I feel the team is too weak to most of the big OU threats so I'm really looking for a huge overhaul. (Of course, I'm pretty sure I just suck, so that could be the problem, too.)
 
Vaporeon may not have as much HP, but it has better stats all around, access to Baton Pass, and access to Baton Passing moves. Plus, Vaporeon has enough HP and strong defenses, so it'll be able to survive the attack while using Wish, then BPing into a Pokemon to take the Grass or Electric hit, like Whiscash or Forrestress.

It's your choice, though.
 
Vap also get's a better offensive move pool (I think). My Vap was meant to be defensive but it attacked more then defended XD.
 
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Vappy is better than Alomomola because it isn't complete set up bait almost anything can come in on your Alomomola (I hate typing out that name) and begin setting up, as long as it isn't weak to priority aqua jet. Weras Vappy can actually threaten things, and can actually use Sald effectively, which is another bonus.

Accelgor is crap. Adding Accelgor for the sake of having a back up RD'er is stupid. Just Specs Poli, it then beats every other instant-weather pokemon in one hit- meaning they're unlikely to come in on you to change the weather.
Swap out Accelgor for Ferrothorn. I know it's VERY standard but you need something to take both Electric and Grass attacks, since a poke with both is going to give you guessing games (Forry doesn't want to take repeated STAB T-Bolts from something like Specs Jolteon). Giving it Spikes also frees up a moveslot on Forry, taking the pressure off it and allowing you to run both Gyro Ball and Volt-switch. Don't bother with SR, your team doesn't really need it since most of the pokemon who Fear SR won't be a threat anyways.
 
Gren Draco said:
Vappy is better than Alomomola because it isn't complete set up bait almost anything can come in on your Alomomola (I hate typing out that name) and begin setting up, as long as it isn't weak to priority aqua jet. Weras Vappy can actually threaten things, and can actually use Sald effectively, which is another bonus.

Accelgor is crap. Adding Accelgor for the sake of having a back up RD'er is stupid. Just Specs Poli, it then beats every other instant-weather pokemon in one hit- meaning they're unlikely to come in on you to change the weather.
Swap out Accelgor for Ferrothorn. I know it's VERY standard but you need something to take both Electric and Grass attacks, since a poke with both is going to give you guessing games (Forry doesn't want to take repeated STAB T-Bolts from something like Specs Jolteon). Giving it Spikes also frees up a moveslot on Forry, taking the pressure off it and allowing you to run both Gyro Ball and Volt-switch. Don't bother with SR, your team doesn't really need it since most of the pokemon who Fear SR won't be a threat anyways.
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You make a good argument. I really need something that can deal with opposing Ferrothorn's as well (or I think I do at least.) Any ideas?
 
MudkipsAreAwesome said:
Since its raining, Fire attacks won't hit as hard. Oh, and other weather messes up your team. You might want some swift swim pokemon as well. Kingdra!(If you're NOT using Smogon tiers...)
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Yeah, I know fire won't hit as hard. I've got focus blast, but I don't think its strong enough to one-shot :/. Other weather does mess it up, but so far choice specs Toed (thanks bro) has killed all other weather-makers in one, bar Abomasnow. (he messed me up, but I won.) I thought about using a sniper Kingdra (I'm playing Smogon tiers, I think >.<) and scarfing it just so kids would rage about drizzleswim being banned.
 
Lol. Btw. have you ever played Wifi tier? It is teeming with sandstorm. I entered this tourney, and got to the finals. EVERY SINGLE TEAM I FOUGHT HAD AN EXCADRILL AND TTAR. It was so dam annoying because Excadrill is insane in sandstorm.

Back to topic: Don't run choice scarf Kingdra. Use DD and sweep with Waterfall, or use a Gyarados.
 
MudkipsAreAwesome said:
Lol. Btw. have you ever played Wifi tier? It is teeming with sandstorm. I entered this tourney, and got to the finals. EVERY SINGLE TEAM I FOUGHT HAD AN EXCADRILL AND TTAR. It was so dam annoying because Excadrill is insane in sandstorm.

Back to topic: Don't run choice scarf Kingdra. Use DD and sweep with Waterfall, or use a Gyarados.
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At the moment, I'm using neither. I really need a reliable counter for Ferrothorn... and Scrafty. Maybe my own Scrafty?
Oh yeah, Vaporeon is a crap-ton better than Alomomola. Easier to write, too. >.>
 
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whiscash could be a packup rainmaker when facing sandstorm but then you couldnt use rest and DD
 
kaiser soze said:
whiscash could be a packup rainmaker when facing sandstorm but then you couldnt use rest and DD
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Yeah, I can't lose Whiscash's DD/Rest he doesn't even do it that well, its hard to get more than one DD and then, he's not outspeeding much let alone OHKOing much. :/
I've noticed that Toedeh is more bulky than I've given him credit for; he took a +1 Dragon Claw from Dragonite after one layer of spikes and lived, so he's reliable enough. (Probably got a low damage roll. IDK it was sweet regardless.)
My walls actually sweep better than my sweepers, most of the time. At this point, I feel that Lapras and Whiscash are actually holding the team back; but, they are my two favorites on the team.
 
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