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Leaf doesn't matter?

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porygon69

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I always played as the boy, and one day I was curios about playing as Leaf, so I gave it a shot. Throughout the game, it seems like if I was still Red, because of what other characters say to me while playing as Leaf. I remember a youngster trainer (or was it a bug catcher?) coming up to me, and telling me why I'm not wearing shorts. That's obviously referring to Red, but I was playing as Leaf. Though Leaf had a skirt, not shorts, but still it's common sense that it was about someone who wasn't showing their legs. And I also remember a Lass trainer, and some beauty trainers flirting with me as Leaf. Why would the creators not fix the gender plots?
 
porygon69 said:
I always played as the boy, and one day I was curios about playing as Leaf, so I gave it a shot. Throughout the game, it seems like if I was still Red, because of what other characters say to me while playing as Leaf. I remember a youngster trainer (or was it a bug catcher?) coming up to me, and telling me why I'm not wearing shorts. That's obviously referring to Red, but I was playing as Leaf. Though Leaf had a skirt, not shorts, but still it's common sense that it was about someone who wasn't showing their legs. And I also remember a Lass trainer, and some beauty trainers flirting with me as Leaf. Why would the creators not fix the gender plots?
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"Why aren't you wearing shorts" doesn't mean that you have to be a male, it's simply asking why you, the player, are not wearing shorts.

Girls aren't allowed to flirt with other girls?
 
§Suicune§ said:

"Why aren't you wearing shorts" doesn't mean that you have to be a male, it's simply asking why you, the player, are not wearing shorts.

Girls aren't allowed to flirt with other girls?
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Okay I understand the girl part, but I know this isn't a yuri game either. Disney channel isn't going to show girls flirting and teasing each other, as well as cartoon network (except adult swim). Even if it happens in real life, it's offensive material towards children, and pokemon games are rated E, so that shouldn't be happening in E rated games. OMG maybe I'm just making a big deal out of this, but still.

And for the shorts thing, it's pretty obvious they mean Red's pants. Leaf isn't wearing pants, she wears a skirt, but it's really odd to ask someone why they where skirts over shorts. That's like asking "Why aren't you wearing a jacket?" to a guy that's wearing a sweater.

Or if you mean the person playing the game, then I'm not sure why that would even matter, because the player just might happen to be wearing shorts.
 
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porygon69 said:
Okay I understand the girl part, but I know this isn't a yuri game either. Disney channel isn't going to show girls flirting and teasing each other, as well as cartoon network (except adult swim). Even if it happens in real life, it's offensive material towards children, and pokemon games are rated E, so that shouldn't be happening in E rated games. OMG maybe I'm just making a big deal out of this, but still.

And for the shorts thing, it's pretty obvious they mean Red's pants. Leaf isn't wearing pants, she wears a skirt, but it's really odd to ask someone why they where skirts over shorts. That's like asking "Why aren't you wearing a jacket?" to a guy that's wearing a sweater.

Or if you mean the person playing the game, then I'm not sure why that would even matter, because the player just might happen to be wearing shorts.
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Why exactly do you think that the bug catcher is referring to someone wearing pants? In that case, isn't it pretty odd to ask why someone is wearing pants over shorts? Using your logic, of course.


And I meant the girl comment as a joke. However, it's not like the character is saying, "Hey, Babe, your body looks luscious." It's an innocent comment, unless of course you can provide the exact text that the trainers say, seeing as my memory is a little fuzzy.
 
porygon69 said:
Why would the creators not fix the gender plots?
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Not exactly true. I remember that Bill called Leaf "lady" when Leaf first visited his cottage. There was a woman in the Pokemon Tower called Leaf "girl" as well.
 
Er, I don't see what the issue is with the gender roles. It sorta works both ways. Leaf is an 11-year-old, and is being called cute by older female trainers (IIRC, Beauties are usually the ones who call her "cute," and are probably in their teens). What's wrong with calling a young kid cute?
 
Miune said:
Er, I don't see what the issue is with the gender roles. It sorta works both ways. Leaf is an 11-year-old, and is being called cute by older female trainers (IIRC, Beauties are usually the ones who call her "cute," and are probably in their teens). What's wrong with calling a young kid cute?
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Well, I remember a lass coming up to Leaf and saying something like this.
"That look you just gave me, it was so intriguing". Or something like that.

And I'm not sure, but I think one of those Jr male classes told me something about him having a girlfriend, and I (as Leaf) was brought up on his comment like if I had to be jealous of that or something.
 
porygon69 said:
Well, I remember a lass coming up to Leaf and saying something like this.
"That look you just gave me, it was so intriguing". Or something like that.

And I'm not sure, but I think one of those Jr male classes told me something about him having a girlfriend, and I (as Leaf) was brought up on his comment like if I had to be jealous of that or something.
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That =/= flirting. Maybe the look was intriguing because Leaf looks intimidating? Or like a skilled trainer?

The "I'm a cool guy, I've got a girlfriend" guy is just bragging. XD
 
They have must to change those things. I agree.

Most of your arguments are justified, it must be a difference. Apparently they forgot that.
 
I never really noticed it because I never play as the female character. But I agree that they should fix the things you pointed out except for the shorts thing because anybody can wear shorts.
 
11tjcoulombe said:
I don't see how it's a big deal, fr/lg have been out for five years now, it's obviously not going to be changed
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I'm not wondering when it will be changed. For obvious reasons.
I'm just wondering why they didn't take the time to fix some stuff.

They fixed some stuff, but some other stuff are still there that weren't fixed.
 
Because it has not effect on the storyline and no one really cares alot if they were to lazy to fix like three npcs speech
 
porygon69 said:
I always played as the boy, and one day I was curios about playing as Leaf, so I gave it a shot. Throughout the game, it seems like if I was still Red, because of what other characters say to me while playing as Leaf. I remember a youngster trainer (or was it a bug catcher?) coming up to me, and telling me why I'm not wearing shorts. That's obviously referring to Red, but I was playing as Leaf. Though Leaf had a skirt, not shorts, but still it's common sense that it was about someone who wasn't showing their legs. And I also remember a Lass trainer, and some beauty trainers flirting with me as Leaf. Why would the creators not fix the gender plots?
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It's Japan. What did you expect? :D

Either way, does it really matter? Sure you've made some good points... and sure, I think the Game Developers should have sorted it already a bit. But think about it; while they've made a mistake with the gender plot with the main Male / Female character, do you honestly think young children are going to care? Seeing as this game is normally directed towards a younger group, I'm mostly certain they wouldn't care about the mistake that others would detect easily. They're just playing the game to be the best :)
 
i always play as Leaf and i don't really care. Doesn't a Lass say "Eek! you looked at me" or something like that? that's not flirting at all. I think of it as a Lass looking down upon Leaf.

there's no reason to get it changed. It all fits if you ACTUALLY think about it.
 
I've got no issues with it. I, as a girl, would honestly not mind if another girl seemed as though she was flirting with me, I would just continue the conversation without giving it another thought.
 
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