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Pre-E4 Team

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xyribose

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Hi! I'm new here. This has been the most helpful pokemon forum that I've seen so far on the web.

Anyway, I just got the Beacon Badge on Pearl and am on my way to the Elite Four. Here is my team:

Staraptor: L46; Gentle
- Endeavor
- Close Combat
- Fly
- Aerial Ace

Empoleon: L46; Quirky
- Dig
- Aerial Ace
- Surf
- Brine

Luxray: L46; Serious
- Strength
- Thunder
- Shock Wave
- Crunch

Steelix: L45; Calm
- Rock Smash
- Crunch
- Rock Climb
- Earthquake

Palkia: L47; Docile
- Water Pulse
- AncientPower
- Dragon Claw
- Spacial Rend

Azelf: L50; Careful
- Confusion
- Uproar
- Future Sight
- Nasty Plot

A few of my thoughts on my team, I would like to replace some of the moves on my Empoleon, possibly Brine or Aerial Ace with something better. And the two legendaries, I just caught them (and Uxie) and put these two on my team for novelty purposes. I used Rayquaza during E4 in Emerald and I'm assuming that E4 in Diamond wont ban legendaries or anything. In any case, I also have a Roserade and a Rapidash in reserve. Both are around level 40-ish.

Your help and input will be greatly appreciated. =3
 
xyribose said:
Hi! I'm new here. This has been the most helpful pokemon forum that I've seen so far on the web.

Anyway, I just got the Beacon Badge on Pearl and am on my way to the Elite Four. Here is my team:

Staraptor: L46; Gentle
- Endeavor
- Close Combat
- Fly
- Aerial Ace

Empoleon: L46; Quirky
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Surf
- Toxic/Rain Dance
Having Empoleon learning Rain Dance, i will tell you later.

Luxray: L46; Serious
- Ice Fang(If you breed it)
- Thunderbolt
- Shock Wave
- Crunch
Thunderbolt is more accurate then Thunder. Unless your team haves a water pokemon that learn Rain Dance like Empoleon. So if you let Empoleon learn Toxic, then change Thunder to Thunderbolt


Steelix: L45; Calm
- Double-Edge/Take Down
- Crunch
- Rock Climb
- Earthquake
Do not use HM moves, they are not good. They're ruined your movesets. Rock Smash is going to be cancelled as it damage is quite bad. As for your Rock Climb, i do not know. Let the pros teach you.

Palkia: L47; Docile
- Water Pulse
- AncientPower
- Dragon Claw
- Spacial Rend
One word for you, are you using this as your team? Try using other pokemon

Azelf: L50; Careful
- Confusion
- Uproar
- Future Sight
- Nasty Plot
I sure you just caught it. As the attacks are already being learned by Azelf.

A few of my thoughts on my team, I would like to replace some of the moves on my Empoleon, possibly Brine or Aerial Ace with something better. And the two legendaries, I just caught them (and Uxie) and put these two on my team for novelty purposes. I used Rayquaza during E4 in Emerald and I'm assuming that E4 in Diamond wont ban legendaries or anything. In any case, I also have a Roserade and a Rapidash in reserve. Both are around level 40-ish.

Your help and input will be greatly appreciated. =3
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Comments in Bold. I still a begininer so i would sometime say wrongly.
 
Thank you very much for helping me!

But, semi-noob speaking here:

- I already used my TM26 Earthquake on my Steelix. Is there another way to teach Empoleon that move?
- I dont like Rock Smash either. But will I need it for getting through Victory Road? And how would I go about un-learning Rock Smash?
- Is there any other way to get the TM's for Thunderbolt and Flamethrower other than the game corner? I epic fail at those slots...or is there an easier way?
- Suggestions for replacing Palkia and Azelf? Should I replace them at all? Or can I just teach it different moves? I personally like Spacial Rend...

Thanks in advance
 
I already used my TM26 Earthquake on my Steelix. Is there another way to teach Empoleon that move?"

Since you already got the Earthquake for Steelix. Dig is good but you have to wait for 1 turn for it to dig. And that time, your opponent already switch out a pokemon that have levitate? Do you have any TM that is ground type?


- I dont like Rock Smash either. But will I need it for getting through Victory Road? And how would I go about un-learning Rock Smash?

Thats is very easy.. Just go through the Victory Cave, when you reach the Elite Four Place, you already can fly there. So fly back to remove your Rock Smash. Viola.


Is there any other way to get the TM's for Thunderbolt and Flamethrower other than the game corner? I epic fail at those slots...or is there an easier way?

There is a easy way of getting it. Instead of doing those slots.. Buy the coins. Do you have an Luck Incease with you? Or a Amulet Coin? If you have, give it to the pokemon you want to train.

Then go to the Resort Area between Veilstone and Pastoria. Then go to Sunyshore route. You see battle a Rich Boy Trek who have a Luxio right? Battle him and if you pokemon is holding the Luck Inceasen or Amulet Coin, after defeating him.

You get can 17600 Pokedollars. I got 100K within a fews minutes by battling him. But beware, it you battle him a lot of times, it would be a lvl 55 Luxio.

Suggestions for replacing Palkia and Azelf? Should I replace them at all? Or can I just teach it different moves? I personally like Spacial Rend...

Looks to me that you don't have any Fire type and Psychic Type.

Try Blissey, Lvl 100 with 714 Hp. I training my one now lvl 25 with 164 hp.

If you really like Palkia so much, you can use it. But in Wi-Fi Battles like D/P.

Depends on the trainer, if he allow legenderies. If he doesn't allow then you have to replace. Unless, you a person who is playing In-Game only. You don't battle in Wi-Fi battle. Then you can use.

Azelf change to Blissey if you want.

The last pokemon you can use anything you want. Like i said,.
 
Well, get these sets when you can ;)


xyribose said:
Staraptor: L46; Adamant/Jolly
- Return
- Close Combat
- U-Turn
- Brave Bird

Empoleon: L46; Modest
- Agilty/Flash Cannon
- Grass Knot
- Surf
- Ice Beam

Luxray: L46; Adamant
- Fire Fang/Thunder Wave
- Ice Fang
- Spark
- Crunch

Steelix: L45; Adamant/Impish
- Stone Edge/Double-Edge (depends on its Ability)
- Ice Fang
- Iron Tail
- Earthquake

Palkia: L47; Modest/Timid @Lustrous Orb
- Surf
- Aura Sphere
- Flamethrower
- Spacial Rend
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Not sure on Azelf, but its Nature lowers Special Attack, so I guess you should replace that.
 
Thank you all soooo much!!

Alright, a few changes here:

Steelix: I will definitely get rid of rock smash. I think you get Stone Edge in Victory Road. My steelix's ability is, unfortunately, Sturdy rather than the one that negates damage from double edge. It will learn Double Edge after it levels up again. DE's good because its accurate, but SE doesnt damage you...however, it's not very accurate.

Palkia: Do I have to level it up to 90 for Aura Sphere? or is there another way?

Azelf: Replaced with Mesprit. I already replaced Confusion with Psychic. I'm planning to throw in Ice Beam and Thunderbolt in there too. What about the fourth move? I've heard some ppl taught it Shadow Ball

Staraptor: Will replace Aerial Ace with Brave Bird

Anyway, here are the movesets I plan to have ATM:

Steelix
- Rock Smash => Double Edge or Stone Edge (???)
- Crunch
- Rock Climb
- Earthquake

Staraptor:
- Endeavor
- Close Combat
- Aerial Ace => Brave Bird
- Fly

Luxray:
- Strength
- Thunder
- Shock Wave
- Crunch

Empoleon:
- Dig
- Aerial Ace
- Surf
- Waterfall => Flash Cannon

Palkia:
- Water Pulse => Surf
- AncientPower => Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Spacial Rend

Mesprit:
- Psychic
- Lucky Chant => Thunderbolt
- Future Sight => ??????
- Charm => Ice Beam

What do you think?

edit: by the way, Shiny Trainer, I noticed that the natures you listed were different from the ones I have right now. Is it possible to change my pokemons' natures?
 
Apart from Legends, you can just breed or caught another one to get different Natures :)
For Legends, I guess you have to trade if you want to get correct Natures now......

If you don't want to do Natures, then just ignore the Nature suggestions ;)

Mesprit
Modest Nature
~Calm Mind/Shadow Ball
~Psychic
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt
 
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Honestly, minus the move sets, you really shouldn't have to worry about the E4.
Just get all your pokemon into that lvl. 55-60 area.
 
^^You don't need to go that far. You can beat the E4 with the pokes and levels you have right now. However, the first member uses bugs, so replace Azelf with Rapidash. Azelf won't really help you at all.
 
^^You don't need to go that far. You can beat the E4 with the pokes and levels you have right now. However, the first member uses bugs, so replace Azelf with Rapidash. Azelf won't really help you at all.
 
Thanks!!!

okay, im through Victory Road and here's my current team:

Staraptor: L50
- Endeavor
- Close Combat
- Brave Bird
- Fly

Steelix: L50
- Crunch
- Rock Climb
- Earthquake
- ??????

Palkia: L50
- Surf
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Spacial Rend

Luxray: L49
- Thunderbolt
- Shock Wave
- Crunch
- ??????

Mesprit: L51
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Ice Beam

Empoleon: L50
- Dig
- Aerial Ace
- Surf
- Grass Knot

I got rid of Rock Smash on my Steelix, Strength on my Luxray, and Waterfall on my Empoleon. I still don't know what to teach Luxray and Steelix for the fourth move. I'm debating b/w Double Edge and Stone Edge for Steelix. Also, I want to replace Dragon Claw with something else on Palkia, and Endeavor on Staraptor. The main problem I have on my Staraptor moveset is that is quite self-damaging. :/

In any case, I really, really appreciate all the help you are giving me. =D I Action Replayed today and now have 95 of every TM. XDD I decided to not max out rare candies because that would take too much meaning out of the game.
 
Ugh. You're dead to me. You used AR. That's just...blasphemy.
 
Tatortot said:
^^You don't need to go that far. You can beat the E4 with the pokes and levels you have right now. However, the first member uses bugs, so replace Azelf with Rapidash. Azelf won't really help you at all.
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Azelf can learn Flamethrower, and that can pwn those buggies.. Even more, pulling off from a base SAtk of 125 [137.5 if Modest]. It's just that Azelf doesn't get STAB from fire moves. And.... he's Careful --;
 
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