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Penquin

Sinnoh Trainer
Please double check my threat list and type coverage. Thanks! ;417;

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Yanmega(male) @Wise Glasses LVL 50>>Lead
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Timid
EVs: 60 HP / 252 SAtk / 196 Spd
~Bug Buzz
~Air Slash
~Shadow Ball
~Protect

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Cloyster-Shell Shocker(male) @Leftovers>>Spiker
Ability: Shell Armor
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 SpDef/ 6 Spd
~Spikes
~Ice Beam
~Surf
~Rapid Spin

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Jolteon@Leftovers>>Special Sweeper
Ability: Static
Nature: Timid
EVS: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6HP
-Wish
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Grass
-Thunderbolt

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Mamoswine (male)@Leftovers LVL 50>>Tank
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Snow Hide
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SDef
~Stone Edge
~Return
~Ice Shard
~Earthquake

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Blissey(female)@Leftovers>>Special Wall
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 148 hp / 252 def / 4 spd / 104 spatk
~Ice Beam
~Softboiled
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss

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Sceptile-Gex(male)@Leftovers>>Leech Seeder
Nature: Timid
Ability: Overgrowth
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
~ Energy Ball
~ Leech Seed
~ Subsitute
~ Hidden Power Fire

Threat List:
-Rhyperior: Jolteon (50/50)
-Infernape: Jolteon (50/50)
-Gengar: Blissey
-Raikou: Jolteon
-Tyranitar: (mamoswine then sceptile)
-Azelf: Blissey
-Electrivire: Jolteon
-Heracross: Jolteon
-Salamence: Blissey
-Togekiss: Blissey
-Garchomp: Jolteon
-Lucario: Blissey (50/50)
-Rampardos: Sceptile
-Tauros: Blissey
-Starmie: Jolteon
-Weavile: Cloyster (50/50)
-Dugtrio: Cloyster
-Alakazam: Blissey
-Medicham: Jolteon
-Slowbro: Jolteon
-Jolteon: Blissey
-Skarmory: Cloyster
-Magnezone: Mamoswine
-Aerodactyl: Jolteon
-Swampert: Sceptile
-Sceptile: Yanmega
-Metagross: (blissey and then mamoswine)
-Gyarados: Jolteon

Type Disadvantages
-Normal: 2
-Fire: 2
-Grass: 2
-Water: 2
-Electric: 2
-Ice: 2
-Fighting: 2
-Poison: 2
-Ground: 2
-Rock: 2
-Flying: 2
-Psychic: 2
-Bug: 2
-Ghost: immune
-Dragon: 2
-Dark: 2
-Steel: 2
 
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you haven't updated your threat list and i am laughing at it

a pokemon that isn't on your team counters tauros apparently
 
Extrasensory said:
you haven't updated your threat list and i am laughing at it

a pokemon that isn't on your team counters tauros apparently
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lol he's right your threat list is horrible...

and i suppose rhyperior is easily countered by jolteon...

oh and BTW happy birthday Extra!! :)
 
might as well do this as mag is banned
Penquin said:
Threat List:
-Rhyperior: Jolteon (50/50)hi my name is eq/stone edge i OHKO on the switch, thus defeating the purpose of counter. nothing really switches in except maybe mamoswine which gets 2HKO'd anyway and cant 2HKO back
-Infernape: Jolteon (50/50)Choice Item/LOape KO's this. cloyster can meybe take two flamethrowers, maybe not, but it's the closest thing you have to a counter.
-Gengar: Blisseyagreed
-Raikou: Jolteon raikou subs and lols at how you do **** all to it while it CM's up. blissey is slightly a counter to this.
-Tyranitar: (mamoswine then sceptile) mamoswine could probably survive a stone edge or two. sceptile lol no-Azelf: Blissey
-Electrivire: Jolteon earthquake .__.
-Heracross: Jolteon dies to close combat! yanmega can work, but only with focus sash.
-Salamence: Blissey there are more salamence sets than just specsmence. give cloyster a shitload of defense EVs and it will probably take two cbmence hits.
-Togekiss: Blissey cbkiss is so uncommon that we won't count this. correct.
-Garchomp: Jolteon again, can't switch in
-Lucario: Blissey (50/50) choice specs aura sphere does ~54% to blissey. has no real counter, but you can try. again, there are more lucario sets than specs.
-Rampardos: Sceptile gets KO'd on the switch
-Tauros: Solrock doesn't exist in this team!
-Starmie: Jolteon im pretty sure surf KO's on the switch. blissey counters jolt!
-Weavile: Cloyster (50/50) def EVless cloyster gets 2HKO'd by bb. should be able to take two hits with alot of def EVs.
-Dugtrio: Cloyster same as above really
-Alakazam: Blissey yeah
-Medicham: Jolteon dies on the switch, and im not sure if it even OHKO's cham ._.
-Slowbro: Jolteon definite maybe
-Jolteon: Blissey yeah
-Skarmory: Cloyster yeah
-Magnezone: Mamoswine won't like taking repeated HP grasses. blissey counters magnezone.
-Aerodactyl: Jolteon can't switch in without dying really!
-Swampert: Sceptile i think it takes an ice beam so yeah correct
-Sceptile: Yanmega hidden power fire should KO so yeah
-Metagross: (blissey and then mamoswine) blissey dies to two CB meteor mashes and mamoswine cannot switch in at all. lol
-Gyarados: Jolteon EQ'd on the switch. bam. dead.

Type Disadvantages
-why do you include this again? it is pointless
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yeah your team really hates metagross.
 
Alright, then how do you suppose I counter some of those? I'm using this team or my Gyarados, Jirachi, Sceptile, Mamo, Yan, Blissey team. One of those teams has to work, and not make it so my team dies to 1 Pokemon.

If I used Solrock, Gyarados, or Jirachi for anyone would that help me?
 
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Threat List:
-Rhyperior:
-Infernape: Cloyster (50/50)
-Gengar: Blissey
-Raikou: Blissey
-Tyranitar: Mamoswine(50/50)
-Azelf: Blissey
-Electrivire: ?
-Heracross: Yanmega
-Salamence: Cloyser
-Togekiss: Blissey
-Garchomp: Jirachi(50/50)
-Lucario: Jirachi
-Rampardos: Jirachi?
-Tauros: Jirachi
-Starmie: Blissey
-Weavile: Cloyster (50/50)
-Dugtrio: Cloyster
-Alakazam: Blissey
-Medicham: Jirachi
-Slowbro: Cloyster
-Jolteon: Blissey
-Skarmory: Cloyster
-Magnezone: Blissey
-Aerodactyl: Jirachi
-Swampert: Sceptile
-Sceptile: Yanmega
-Metagross: Blissey then Jirachi
-Gyarados: Cloyster
 
Your cloyster isn't exactly countering salamence. Stealth rock is pretty common, which is going to knock cloyster down pretty fast, and a 1st turn draco meteor is an automatic OHKO. Even a 2nd turn draco meteor is doing 70-80%, assuming you have perfect HP and special defense IV's.

We can't tell whether your jirachi counters any of those pokemon, as we don't know it's moveset. Post it please.

Also with your threat list, cloyster can handle rhyperior, but he cannot handle gyarados. Cloyster is also going to die to special infernapes. Most slowbro carry HP electric, which also destroys your cloyster, who can't do anything back.

There's all of the flaws involving cloyster in your threat list that I could find. Refer to extrasensory's post for the others.
 
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remind me again how jirachi counters garchomp when it is weak to earthquake and can't really hit it that hard
 
^Thanks for reminding me to actually look at the team.

Hypnosis>shadow ball on yanmega.

Ice fang>return on mamoswine. Only grass, flying, and bug resist ground. Ice hits grass and flying SE, and stone edge takes care of the bugs as well as the flyers. Thus, you have no reason to use return, when you will always have a stronger attack.
 
Penquin said:
Please double check my threat list and type coverage. Thanks! ;417;

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Yanmega(male) @Wise Glasses LVL 50>>Lead
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Timid
EVs: 60 HP / 252 SAtk / 196 Spd
~Bug Buzz
~Air Slash
~hypnosis
~Protect

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Cloyster-Shell Shocker(male) @Leftovers>>Spiker
Ability: Shell Armor
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 SpDef/ 6 Spd
~Spikes
~Ice Beam
~Surf
~Rapid Spin

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Jolteon@Leftovers>>Special Sweeper
Ability: volt absorb
Nature: Timid
EVS: 252 spAtk / 252 Spd / 6HP
-Wish
-thunder wave
-Hidden Power Grass
-Thunderbolt

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Mamoswine (male)@choice band LVL 50>>Tank
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Snow Hide
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 SDef
~Stone Edge
~ice fang
~Ice Shard
~Earthquake

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Blissey(female)@Leftovers>>Special Wall
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 148 hp / 252 def / 4 spd / 104 spatk
~Ice Beam
~Softboiled
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss

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Sceptile-Gex(male)@Leftovers>>Leech Seeder
Nature: Timid
Ability: Overgrowth
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
~ Energy Ball
~ Leech Seed
~ Subsitute
~ Hidden Power Fire

Threat List:
-Rhyperior: Jolteon (50/50)
-Infernape: Jolteon (50/50)
-Gengar: Blissey
-Raikou: Jolteon
-Tyranitar: (mamoswine then sceptile)
-Azelf: Blissey
-Electrivire: Jolteon
-Heracross: Jolteon
-Salamence: Blissey
-Togekiss: Blissey
-Garchomp: Jolteon
-Lucario: Blissey (50/50)
-Rampardos: Sceptile
-Tauros: Blissey
-Starmie: Jolteon
-Weavile: Cloyster (50/50)
-Dugtrio: Cloyster
-Alakazam: Blissey
-Medicham: Jolteon
-Slowbro: Jolteon
-Jolteon: Blissey
-Skarmory: Cloyster
-Magnezone: Mamoswine
-Aerodactyl: Jolteon
-Swampert: Sceptile
-Sceptile: Yanmega
-Metagross: (blissey and then mamoswine)
-Gyarados: Jolteon

Type Disadvantages
-Normal: 2
-Fire: 2
-Grass: 2
-Water: 2
-Electric: 2
-Ice: 2
-Fighting: 2
-Poison: 2
-Ground: 2
-Rock: 2
-Flying: 2
-Psychic: 2
-Bug: 2
-Ghost: immune
-Dragon: 2
-Dark: 2
-Steel: 2
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Changes in bold mainly jolteon because why have atk when he's a special attacker and its your call on weither to use hypnosis on yanmega but thats what I would go with. In my option choice band goes better with mamoswine because is gives a 50% boostand ice fang does good stab when you don't need to strike first. Jolton doesn't have static he has volt absorb and thunder wave works better than shadow ball. Sorry I'm new at this, this is the best I got.
 
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Kk, swould switching Jirachi for Mamoswine and maybe Venusaur for Sceptile help my team make sure I don't die from 1 Pokemon. Or make my team and threat list better.

Jirachi (genderless)@Leftovers LVL 50>>Wall
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 76 Def / 136 Spd
~Reflect
~Wish
~U-turn
~Zen Headbutt

Venusaur@Black Sludge>>Physical Sweeper
Nature: Careful
Ability: Overgrowth
EVs: 252 HP /80Def / 80 Sdef/ 48Atk /44 Satk
~Leech Seed
~Sludge Bomb
~Earthquake
~Leaf Storm
 
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If you have a choice, impish is better for jirachi.
 
And Careful isn't the best Nature for that Venusaur.
 
I dont care, just tell me which of these Pokemon make the best team:
-Blissey
-Yanmega
-Gyarados
-Jirachi
-Sceptile
-Venusaur
-Cloyster
-Mamoswine
-Solrock
-Omastar
-Jolteon
 
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Argue not, young Padawan.

Be courteous, you will.

Definition of counter, learn you must.

If you learn not, smack you I will.
 
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