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[FlygonDude]

This is my first Gen4 team, and I'm still getting used to the game.

The team is built around bulky pokemon that can pack a punch, aided by a swords dance pass. The glaring weakness in the team is that it has no surefire way to counter special attackers. If I mispredict, things like starmie can walk all over it.

Number Six (Flygon) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Outrage
- Fire Blast

Most leads these days are either Azelf, Metagross or Aerodactyl. Flygon scares away two of those, and I can just U-turn anyway if the lead is something different.

Starbuck (Leafeon) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 196 HP/62 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Yawn

<3 The core of the team. Leafeon is surprisingly durable. Yawn gives me a free SD or pute the opponent to sleep; so it's a win-win. It's relatively easy to switch in too, because she takes physical attacks like crazy.

Cain (Tyranitar) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/38 Atk/220 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake/ Land Power

Err, weird set but I love it. Tanky as hell. Crunch is the main STAB attack, obvs, and does massive damage with an SD passed, but I miss Pursuit. Fire Blast for the Scizor switch in. None of my pokemon can take a WoW save Gyarados; so I'm considering Land Power over Earthquake. Actually, I'm not even sure if I want a ground move on there, because the only attacks I use are Crunch and SR mainly. ANy other suggestions for the last slot would be helpful.

Space Pup (Lucario) (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Vacuum Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Close Combat

My late-game sweeper. People don't seem to expect SpecsLuc.

Number Three (Mesprit) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 204 HP/56 Spd/80 SAtk/158 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Trick
- Thunder
- U-turn
- Grass Knot

And here's the trouble-maker of the team. Suicune pisses all over my guys, and tricking the scarf onto suicune is my only counter against it. The trouble is, without leftovers, Mesprit can't take special hits, and that's the main reason I have her in my team. I used to have Latias over Mesprit but I hate Latias ._. Thunder for gyarados, Grass Knot for Swampert, though I'll probably replace Grass Knot with Psychic or HP: Fire. U-Turn is just fun and works awesomely in tandem with both Flygon's U-Turn and Leafeon's SD pass.

Number Five (Gyarados) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
- Waterfall
- Body Slam

<3 I love this set. Like Tyranitar above, he takes hits like a champ. Body Slam for the paralysis support. Again, after a SD, waterfall just owns.

So that's the team. I have trouble with Salamence too, but I think every team these days have Salamence troubles. F U, Outrage!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Gren Draco]

Basing a team around one mediocre baton passer isn't going to work "/.
you need a powerful special attacker over lucario, Gengar would work, you should also make him timid and scarf him, so you can deal with Sala and gyarados, also if you forsake Trick on him for Energy ball you'll have a way to get rid of swampert, who can take on most of your team easily except for Gyara.

 

[Xhizors]

Number Six (Flygon) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Outrage
- Fire Blast

Most leads these days are either Azelf, Metagross or Aerodactyl. Flygon scares away two of those, and I can just U-turn anyway if the lead is something different.

Run Choice band to OHKO Metagross, Jirachi and Chuca berry Heatran because with Scarf it's a 2HKO on all three of them.

Starbuck (Leafeon) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 196 HP/62 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Yawn

<3 The core of the team. Leafeon is surprisingly durable. Yawn gives me a free SD or pute the opponent to sleep; so it's a win-win. It's relatively easy to switch in too, because she takes physical attacks like crazy.

I think this is just an inferior Celebi because of the better HP and couters Gyardos better as he can be a problem to this team. I don't think you should use this outside of UU.

Number Three (Mesprit) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 204 HP/56 Spd/80 SAtk/158 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Trick
- Thunder
- U-turn
- Grass Knot

And here's the trouble-maker of the team. Suicune pisses all over my guys, and tricking the scarf onto suicune is my only counter against it. The trouble is, without leftovers, Mesprit can't take special hits, and that's the main reason I have her in my team. I used to have Latias over Mesprit but I hate Latias ._. Thunder for gyarados, Grass Knot for Swampert, though I'll probably replace Grass Knot with Psychic or HP: Fire. U-Turn is just fun and works awesomely in tandem with both Flygon's U-Turn and Leafeon's SD pass.

Thunder's accuracy is lowered in sandstorm to 50%, so you should change that to Thunderbolt. EVs are a bit weird for a scarf set.

 

[Troggy]

Goooooooo Leafeon!

The only part I don't really like that much is Mesprit. I can't help but think that a Ghost would help this team out. Either that, or something with an Ice move at least! How did you get away with not including any??

Are there any other special moves Specs Lucario can use? Triple fighting, that's intense haha. While I can't argue with the logic of any of them, just thought I'd check.

 

[King45King]

all i can say is LO Starmie rapes this team hmm...And i dont see the point of Leafeon..I would replace that with a blissey or something defensive..

 

[King45King]

Heh Sorry for Double post >.<

 

[Troggy]

all i can say is LO Starmie rapes this team hmm...And i dont see the point of Leafeon..I would replace that with a blissey or something defensive..

How much would LO Starmie (252 SpA Timid?) Surf to do his 252 HP / 220 SpD Sassy T-Tar in Sand? Not trying to say it is a counter, but it might be an interesting question to ask.

Alright, I ran the calculations, here's what I found:

Timid LO Starmie Surf: 42.4% - 49.9% (3HKO)
Tyranitar Crunch on Starmie: 100%

Although Tyranitar is not a Starmie counter because switching in on an attack would cause heavy damage to be dealt before it could kill Starmie with Crunch, Starmie can't switch in on T-Tar since it can't even do 50% with Surf.

Oh one other thing, wouldn't you get more Defensive capability from maxing Leafeon's HP versus putting some into defense? The base stat for Defense is higher than the HP stat. Maybe you already ran some calculations, but you may want to check which gives you more bulk.