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Serena's Future

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Contestshipping may have not gone 100% but for Pokémon, they definitely did a lot with it.

And that's the thing with Serena. She genuinely does have an interest with Pokémon and the world and how it works. She questions it, she observes it, she reacts strongly to it. It's just that the writers aren't really having her do as much with it and that's been disappointing.

It's kind of like having a friend who says over and over again, "you know I'd love to try that!" but yet passes it up every time another opportunity pops up.
 
Pokemaniac24 said:
Contestshipping may have not gone 100% but for Pokémon, they definitely did a lot with it.

And that's the thing with Serena. She genuinely does have an interest with Pokémon and the world and how it works. She questions it, she observes it, she reacts strongly to it. It's just that the writers aren't really having her do as much with it and that's been disappointing.

It's kind of like having a friend who says over and over again, "you know I'd love to try that!" but yet passes it up every time another opportunity pops up.
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Yknow the only reason she's in the show is because she's the default female character in XY. Sad but true.
 
Maldread said:
Well opposites do attract I guess, but Serena just seems too different. Can you see Ash falling for someone who doesn't battle, doesn't like getting dirty, isn't self-reliant, and likely not going to get into an argument or call him out on anything? I have to agree with the poster who said his type would probably fall for someone who does like to battle, doesn't mind going through a pit of Grimers if necessary, can call him out when he's wrong, is self-reliant and can be the one to save him.
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In other words, Iris. Are you a negaishipper at heart?

And in response to your suggestion that Dawn should have been the one to crush on Ash, I can see where you are coming from since she is the closest to his personality but I am glad they did not do that. Dawn was perfect as she was. Throwing in a garbage will they, won't they subplot that we know will lead nowhere would only sully her character. Just like Misty.
 
chalkus said:
In other words, Iris. Are you a negaishipper at heart?

And in response to your suggestion that Dawn should have been the one to crush on Ash, I can see where you are coming from since she is the closest to his personality but I am glad they did not do that. Dawn was perfect as she was. Throwing in a garbage will they, won't they subplot that we know will lead nowhere would only sully her character. Just like Misty.
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I find it ironic you posted this since you posted in the Pearlshipping thread when you first came here.
 
CyberCubed said:
People just a find it odd we have a female companion who has no interest in battling or doing Pokemon related things in a show called Pokemon.

We're now almost 30 episodes into XY. I doubt much will change.
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Agreed. It's getting harder and harder for me to support her as the weeks go by since she barely does Pokemon-related things. She could at least catch her first Pokemon imo.
 
CyberCubed said:
I find it ironic you posted this since you posted in the Pearlshipping thread when you first came here.
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I have changed my mind since then. I thought there might have been something there but after rewatching DP I am honestly glad that there wasn't. Especially with the relationship going nowhere which is a big problem I have with most pokemon shippings.
 
chalkus said:
I have changed my mind since then. I thought there might have been something there but after rewatching DP I am honestly glad that there wasn't. Especially with the relationship going nowhere which is a big problem I have with most pokemon shippings.
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Honestly I agree. Ash and Dawn work better as an almost sibling like relationship. Dawn probably should have been Ash's long lost sister since both are missing a father and it could be the same guy .
 
A Serena bashing thread, wonder how long before it gets locked.

I've said my piece several times about the character in the character discussion thread, I doubt Serena is staying on this same track forever. I'm sure she will battle, most definitely. Since Ash is the protagonist the writers are gonna overshadow her for Ash's sake. Her battling conflicts too much with Ash, any character battling in a story line not centralized around them conflicts too much with Ash. Contest at least had some differentiation which is why the Coordinators got the battle time they did, even if they still did come secondary to Ashy-boy most of the time. Which is why I'm still pining my hopes on a fundamental collection quest like Battle Maison.
 
Seeing how the Serena topic has taken over every page of the Character Thread, wouldn't it be good to have a thread for it?

Pokemaniac24 said:
Contestshipping may have not gone 100% but for Pokémon, they definitely did a lot with it.

And that's the thing with Serena. She genuinely does have an interest with Pokémon and the world and how it works. She questions it, she observes it, she reacts strongly to it. It's just that the writers aren't really having her do as much with it and that's been disappointing.

It's kind of like having a friend who says over and over again, "you know I'd love to try that!" but yet passes it up every time another opportunity pops up.
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Who said Serena's goal is trying different things to find a goal? Imo that's just a made up assumption; last time Serena outright mentioned something about finding a goal was XY 08. If that was the case, I'm sure writers would've made her more active and lot more interested in the things the group has seen/done so far . That's why some people feel there have been many missed opportunities, when most likely Serena “trying” things was never their intention. The so called activities Serena has tried/showed an interest in were related to things from the games. Ryhorn racing, Furfrou grooming, Pokepuffs - Prvideos, what would be next? Cafes? Skating with Corni?, there isn't really much after that unless they come up with random and most likely boring things for her to do. But exactly for that reason is that I believe Serena finding a goal at some point (hope is sooner than later) is bound to happen.

Only because she hasn't had her first battle/capture , saying Serena has no interest in Pokemon is an outright lie/exaggeration. May was the one who didn't like Pokemon at first, but learned to do so, don't see why it could not happen with Serena too, specially when she DOES like them, but she just needs to find an activity with them that she truly find interesting, pretty much as what happened with May when she found out about Contests. But yeah, that happened in the first 20 episodes of AG, where nor Max nor Brock needed focus episodes for them. Tbh I feel this is just a more drawn out approach of like what they did with May.

What I find interesting is that we are getting remakes this early in the series, so the way they'd affect the anime could very well go beyond the usual mini arc and captures promotion. And that would be Serena's goal. As much as I prefer it to be something different, ( Battle Maison is still there!... ) her ending up doing contests doesn't sound far stretched to me. If I didn't know better, I'd bet writers have known about these remakes when first planning this XY season , so Serena being a coordinator could have been the plan from the very beginning, probably the reason why they were taking things slowly with Serena while the remakes got announced. A long wait for a lot of impatience people I guess, but I undertand... , was it really hard to make her battle/capture a Pokemon meanwhile? At least they are seemingly addressing that since xy 21, hope this trend continues--- but who knows for sure.

What I do know is, if Serena ends up doing contests, I predict the inevitable return of those endless debates about contest/ girls/ stereotypes again, and I personally got no time for that ***p...
 
Ash.mx said:
Seeing how the Serena topic has taken over every page of the Character Thread, wouldn't it be good to have a thread for it?



Who said Serena's goal is trying different things to find a goal? Imo that's just a made up assumption; last time Serena outright mentioned something about finding a goal was XY 08. If that was the case, I'm sure writers would've made her more active and lot more interested in the things the group has seen/done so far . That's why some people feel there have been many missed opportunities, when most likely Serena “trying” things was never their intention. The so called activities Serena has tried/showed an interest in were related to things from the games. Ryhorn racing, Furfrou grooming, Pokepuffs - Prvideos, what would be next? Cafes? Skating with Corni?, there isn't really much after that unless they come up with random and most likely boring things for her to do. But exactly for that reason is that I believe Serena finding a goal at some point (hope is sooner than later) is bound to happen.

Only because she hasn't had her first battle/capture , saying Serena has no interest in Pokemon is an outright lie/exaggeration. May was the one who didn't like Pokemon at first, but learned to do so, don't see why it could not happen with Serena too, specially when she DOES like them, but she just needs to find an activity with them that she truly find interesting, pretty much as what happened with May when she found out about Contests. But yeah, that happened in the first 20 episodes of AG, where nor Max nor Brock needed focus episodes for them. Tbh I feel this is just a more drawn out approach of like what they did with May.

What I find interesting is that we are getting remakes this early in the series, so the way they'd affect the anime could very well go beyond the usual mini arc and captures promotion. And that would be Serena's goal. As much as I prefer it to be something different, ( Battle Maison is still there!... ) her ending up doing contests doesn't sound far stretched to me. If I didn't know better, I'd bet writers have known about these remakes when first planning this XY season , so Serena being a coordinator could have been the plan from the very beginning, probably the reason why they were taking things slowly with Serena while the remakes got announced. A long wait for a lot of impatience people I guess, but I undertand... , was it really hard to make her battle/capture a Pokemon meanwhile? At least they are seemingly addressing that since xy 21, hope this trend continues--- but who knows for sure.

What I do know is, if Serena ends up doing contests, I predict the inevitable return of those endless debates about contest/ girls/ stereotypes again, and I personally got no time for that ***p...
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I wasn't clear enough. I apologize. I didn't mean she was trying different goals. I was speaking more to the fact that she always states that she is interested in something Pokémon related and then doesn't do much with it.

I am completely against her trying to different goals before coming to her final decision.
 
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Ash is still ten years old, guys, and as usual he's completely dense to any and all romantic advances Serena makes towards him-- doubt that's going anywhere, honestly.
 
besho said:
Wow that's a lot of hate for a fictional character.
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What hate? Misty is my third favorite of Ash's female companions. I just think that it is a shame the thing people remember and care the most about her is a one sided romance angle that went nowhere. Which is one of the reasons I like Iris a lot more than her. I wish that there would have been a conclusion to that subplot. Either they get together or Ash rejects her but to keep this eternal will they, won't they dynamic going cheapens her character, especially when you consider how tough and opinionated she was.
 
Unfortunately, many of you don't understand how to keep the thread on topic, so it'll be closed. Not to mention we have the character thread.

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