Serena's Future

[CowNorris]

This may have already been discussed before (or if this is even in the right section) but so far, now that we're good way into the first season, Serena has no real goal for her journey other than to hook up with Ash.

Seems like a waste of a character for her to have her done this way, I doubt she would carry on like this. So what would her future likely to be? Would she still stay in the show for the full XY league?

 

[KumaPanda]

I can already smell this thread being closed. Threads like this have been opened and closed shortly afterward...

I wouldn't call her a waste of space. She had came up with plans like how to retrieve that bamboo shoot in the Pangoro episode. She'll most likely stay in the show for the full league. I mean, what's stopping her? She's a female protagonist from the games and she'll most likely remain with the group until Kalos and the extra feature quest until generation 7 starts.

 

[CowNorris]

Mmhm, that's too bad. I'd have liked other's opinions on this. Any links to old / the proper thread?

 

[zhixun]

Mmhm, that's too bad. I'd have liked other's opinions on this. Any links to old / the proper thread?

These should go to the Pokémon character speculation thread I guess.

 

[phanpycross]

Smells to me like the writers would rather focus on clemont, but needed a token female, kinda like tracey, But the Character still has potential

 

[Fullgrizzly94]

These should go to the Pokémon character speculation thread I guess.

Yea.. It's practically the Serena discussion thread right now, with a little bit of Ash debates thrown in and the occasional I like Clemont post. I'm surprised at how controversial she has actually become here.

 

[Blood Red]

Yea.. It's practically the Serena discussion thread right now, with a little bit of Ash debates thrown in and the occasional I like Clemont post. I'm surprised at how controversial she has actually become here.

Well, she's a pretty big departure from normal characters. She doesn't have a goal of her own, she has romantic feelings for Ash and people either love her for these traits, or flat-out hate her. I personally like her, but each to their own.

 

[Navin]

Well, she's a pretty big departure from normal characters. She doesn't have a goal of her own, she has romantic feelings for Ash and people either love her for these traits, or flat-out hate her. I personally like her, but each to their own.

Well some people are staying patient because it's not even episode 30 yet and there could still be a good 120+ more episodes left for her to develop. But definitely majority feel she's been underwhelming. The writers are definitely relying on this shipping subplot to carry her character.

 

[CyberCubed]

The last episode had Serena practically confirm she wants to be Ash's waifu and that's why she's here.

The girl clearly has no interest in being an actual trainer. I think whatever pokemon she catches will be kept as pets like her starter is. She's with her Ashy boy and that's all she wants.

 

[PokemonNation2000]

I'm not sure, but it's definitely not looking good right now.

Oh well, it could be worse: she could be TR right now, after all. :smh:

 

[Pokemaniac24]

The last episode had Serena practically confirm she wants to be Ash's waifu and that's why she's here.

The girl clearly has no interest in being an actual trainer. I think whatever pokemon she catches will be kept as pets like her starter is. She's with her Ashy boy and that's all she wants.

I'm on the boat that thinks she's going to get a goal, but even if she doesn't and is there as solely shipping bait, then why not go all out with the romance? There is so much they could do with her crush on Ash. I know people don't think Pokémon handles romance well, but I like what they did with May and Drew.

 

[Blood Red]

Well some people are staying patient because it's not even episode 30 yet and there could still be a good 120+ more episodes left for her to develop. But definitely majority feel she's been underwhelming. The writers are definitely relying on this shipping subplot to carry her character.

Personally, I don't mind her being a little less fiery than her predecessors if it means that we'll manage to avoid Iris 2.0, because she was much worse than Serena. Still, I admit it would be better if she tried out different things, like the Battle Chateau. They could've easily made dressing up a requirement, which would've kept Ash out of her path. It'd almost be a different goal, sorta.

 

[KumaPanda]

It would be cool if we got a contest similar to the Princess Day Festival back in OS where only female trainers can participate. They get to dress up, but they also have to battle. It would be a great chance for Serena to show off her clothes and fashion along with being a chance for her to battle, although I don't think it would be her first battle. It would double as fanservice and battling screen time. I see it more of something that comes up in the middle of the series when Serena already established her first battle and got a little more battling experience.

 

[CyberCubed]

Personally, I don't mind her being a little less fiery than her predecessors if it means that we'll manage to avoid Iris 2.0, because she was much worse than Serena. Still, I admit it would be better if she tried out different things, like the Battle Chateau. They could've easily made dressing up a requirement, which would've kept Ash out of her path. It'd almost be a different goal, sorta.

People just a find it odd we have a female companion who has no interest in battling or doing Pokemon related things in a show called Pokemon.

We're now almost 30 episodes into XY. I doubt much will change.

 

[Blood Red]

I'm on the boat that thinks she's going to get a goal, but even if she doesn't and is there as solely shipping bait, then why not go all out with the romance? There is so much they could do with her crush on Ash. I know people don't think Pokémon handles romance well, but I like what they did with May and Drew.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Then again, they've confirmed her feelings for Ash, which is big for only 26 episodes in.

It would be cool if we got a contest similar to the Princess Day Festival back in OS where only female trainers can participate. They get to dress up, but they also have to battle. It would be a great chance for Serena to show off her clothes and fashion along with being a chance for her to battle, although I don't think it would be her first battle. It would double as fanservice and battling screen time. I see it more of something that comes up in the middle of the series when Serena already established her first battle and got a little more battling experience.

It would be something that both she and her Pokémon could benefit from. Better than keeping them as pets, at least.

People just a find it odd we have a female companion who has no interest in battling or doing Pokemon related things in a show called Pokemon.

We're now almost 30 episodes into XY. I doubt much will change.

Yeah, I guess that's pretty odd.

 

[Pokemaniac24]

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Then again, they've confirmed her feelings for Ash, which is big for only 26 episodes in.

Next they could have Ash start to develop feelings for her. That would be interesting to see after how ignorant he has been when it has come to crushes these past few sagas. Sure, romance is not something a lot of Pokémon fans want to dominate the show, but it would develop Ash and Serena more.

 

[Navin]

I'm on the boat that thinks she's going to get a goal, but even if she doesn't and is there as solely shipping bait, then why not go all out with the romance? There is so much they could do with her crush on Ash. I know people don't think Pokémon handles romance well, but I like what they did with May and Drew.

Pokeshipping was virtually the subplot of Orange Islands and Pokemon 2000, and it was handled pretty well. And if you had no problems with Drew, Contestshipping was decently handled too.

The writers can go all out on this, but how many people do you think are going to be happy with the main character's love interest being an underwhelming character who is on the show for fanservice and shipping fodder? I mean, you're seeing the complaints being raised here. As Cyber was saying, trying to be Ash's waifu shouldn't be her main goal...

I think Serena is getting a bit better since episode 21, but still has some ways to go. I really do think the writers should have just done this shipping subplot with Dawn. In the post-OS era, she would have been the ideal person to be Ash's love interest IMO.

Next they could have Ash start to develop feelings for her. That would be interesting to see after how ignorant he has been when it has come to crushes these past few sagas. Sure, romance is not something a lot of Pokémon fans want to dominate the show, but it would develop Ash and Serena more.

Do you really see Serena as being Ash's type?

 

[Pokemaniac24]

Pokeshipping was virtually the subplot of Orange Islands and Pokemon 2000, and it was handled pretty well. And if you had no problems with Drew, Contestshipping was decently handled too.

The writers can go all out on this, but how many people do you think are going to be happy with the main character's love interest being an underwhelming character who is on the show for fanservice and shipping fodder? I mean, you're seeing the complaints being raised here. As Cyber was saying, trying to be Ash's waifu shouldn't be her main goal...

I think Serena is getting a bit better since episode 21, but still has some ways to go. I really do think the writers should have just done this shipping subplot with Dawn. In the post-OS era, she would have been the ideal person to be Ash's love interest IMO.



Do you really see Serena as being Ash's type?

I just dislike when they have romance that really isn't give the proper focus. I mean, who wants a romance that is done 25%? When they have romance as a subplot of a saga, either go all out with it or not at all. I'm not saying they shouldn't give Serena a goal and it would help if Serena has a goal so Ash and Serena could train together and give each other advice.

As for her being his type, sure, why not? I mean, they do have differences but opposites attract. You could tell Serena is genuinely interested in learning about the Pokémon world and how it works. Even though it doesn't always show, she is passionate about Pokémon and even got into Ash's Gym Battles. I could definitely see a scenario where Ash falls for her.

 

[Blood Red]

Next they could have Ash start to develop feelings for her. That would be interesting to see after how ignorant he has been when it has come to crushes these past few sagas. Sure, romance is not something a lot of Pokémon fans want to dominate the show, but it would develop Ash and Serena more.

That would be cool, but she has to gain Ash's attention in some way. Serena has only one base covered, and that's cooking. I think if she was able to do something selfless (like risking her life or something), she'd definitely get Ash's attention

As for her being his type, sure, why not? I mean, they do have differences but opposites attract? You could tell Serena is genuinely interested in learning about the Pokémon world and how it works. Even though it doesn't always show, she is passionate about Pokémon and even got into Ash's Gym Battles. I could definitely see a scenario where Ash falls for her.

Well said. Like there's more to people than their looks, there's more to them than their Pokémon skills, too.

 

[Navin]

I just dislike when they have romance that really isn't give the proper focus. I mean, who wants a romance that is done 25%? When they have romance as a subplot of a saga, either go all out with it or not at all. I'm not saying they shouldn't give Serena a goal and it would help if Serena has a goal so Ash and Serena could train together and give each other advice.

Well Contest was almost-canon - just stopped short of a confession I think.

As for her being his type, sure, why not? I mean, they do have differences but opposites attract? You could tell Serena is genuinely interested in learning about the Pokémon world and how it works. Even though it doesn't always show, she is passionate about Pokémon and even got into Ash's Gym Battles. I could definitely see a scenario where Ash falls for her.

Well opposites do attract I guess, but Serena just seems too different. Can you see Ash falling for someone who doesn't battle, doesn't like getting dirty, isn't self-reliant, and likely not going to get into an argument or call him out on anything? I have to agree with the poster who said his type would probably fall for someone who does like to battle, doesn't mind going through a pit of Grimers if necessary, can call him out when he's wrong, is self-reliant and can be the one to save him. Ash also has that goofy, sarcastic side, but I bet if he teased Serena, she'd probably legitimately get upset.

But I think it could happen of course. Serena becoming more self-reliant, starting to battle, saving Ash in the movie, and bringing back some of that sass would definitely help her cause.