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silent red?

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EfrainBarco

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Why is Red silent during 1st and 2nd gen?
 
What do you mean by Silent?
 
I think Efrain means Red never talks. When you battle him, he only says "......." and no other words. I also don't know why. Lazy programmer maybe?
 
It's probably just because he's the protagonist, and the protagonists in the Pokemon games rarely speak (The only game I can think of with a talking protagonist of sorts is MD.

I guess the silent protagonist rule still applies to him when you're not actually playing as him anymore.
 
Maybe because when you talk to someone in the game, you just say .... maybe that's why they did it. Because Red was a player you used before and thats how he talked.
 
I'm not really sure.
He was the character you played in R/B/Y, and he never talked then.
Maybe they just want to keep it that way? -shrug-
 
Who's REALLY talking

He talks in Saffron in the first and fourth sets of games.


Um, technically that was Copycat (or, as she's called in the anime, Duplica) who was talking.

;444;
 
My guess is that GSC was going on at the same time as RBY.
Red goes to saffron. He can't talk.
Gold goes to saffron. He sees red there. Red can't talk.
 
It could be that something other than a "......" conversation was planned, but a programming error occured that Nintendo didn't notice, but the probability of that is slim. Besides, if you meet some random person in a cave in real life, the person wouldn't give you the silent treatment unless they lost their voice.
 
"Silent protagonists allow the player to create their own interpretation of a game character. By not being prompted by scripted character dialog, the nature of that character (and sometimes even his/her gender) and what they say is left up to the imagination of the player. The character is a blank slate, which can more easily and fully be inhabited by the player, immersing them as fully as possible into the game. In some cases, such as the Myst series, the player's avatar is given no name or defining characteristics at all, meaning that the player themselves is effectively the protagonist of the game. This is in contrast to games such as Duke Nukem 3D, where the protagonist frequently interjects comments into play, and leaves the player in little doubt as to the nature of that character, and with the impression that they are simply puppeteering a distinct and separate character, rather than inhabiting the adventure themselves.

This device is fairly close in principle to that of the "masking effect" mentioned in Scott McCloud's book Understanding Comics - while the masking effect makes things such as facial features and body types in comic book and animated characters as generic as possible in order to allow for easier identification with protagonists, removing the notion of "otherness" from them, the silent protagonist is generic enough so that the player (usually silent himself while playing) feels no clash of personality or opinions during the game, or at least minimizes such a shock."
 
^^I read that book, and I totally agree. In addition, I always thought that it added some mystery and drama to the game. After all; what would you want him to say, anyway? The simple fact is that being a protagonist in the games, he doesn't talk. Enough said:)
~pikapras
 
He doesn't need to say anything. You just fight him. That's how he expresses himself. He doesn't need to say anything more. Your character understands his emotions by the way he battles.
 
yeah, he's the strongest trainer in the game, he doesnt need to talk to anyone! if he talks, it would make him seem less intimidating!
 
Its because he is such a vetran that seeing a trainer come up to battle him isn't anything new. I kinda feel the he is sad and lonely because he has had so much success that training isn't the same anymore and he misses the good old times.
 
Words dont need to be exchanged. Red knows why you sought him out. people walk up to him all the time in Kanto, thinking they can beat the champ. But he's like Rocky, he will lay anyone out no matter they're age.

Also he always has Gary to deal with. Calling him a "chump" all the time and saying "smell ya later" can't do much for Red's self confidence.

But he does have confidence in his abillities. He has confidence in himself and his pokemon. I think 90% of you will tell me that you always have confidence in your pokemon. But what percentage always has confidence in themselves?

Sometimes the most important words are those that aren't spoken.
 
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