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type changes

OMG Vycksta you should come and see this..
Anyway, about the Lucario not having the steel type, I semi-agree, but it's better for us that it's Steel, that's almost exactly what made Lucario easier to switch in, and the BulkyCario set.
 
Some pokemon are so pathetic that they didn't get a second type...

The most pathetic pokemon mistakes that the makers of pokemon made are:
Golduck: Water / PSYCHIC!!!! (Because of the cartoons and because of the games where he can learn psychic attacks, and his looks.)
Gyarados: Water / DRAGON!!! (He has really NOTHING to do with flying.)
Volbeat: Bug / ELECTRIC!!!! (Because of a fire fly.)
Glalie: Ice / DARK!!! (DUH!)
Charizard: Fire / DRAGON (DUH!)
Gengar: Ghost /DARK (Shadow anyone?)
Marowak: Ground / DARK!! (Bones and dead)
Luxray: Electric / DARK (There are already 100 other only-electric types, this pokemon is even black colored, while everybody thought that manectric would be electric/dark they didn't, and now with their SECOND electric based pokemon that looks a bit dark they still didn't made the first electric/dark pokemon... SO STUPID!)
Garchomp: Anything but Dragon / Ground

Less pathetic but still a shame:
Ninetales: Fire / GHOST or PSYCHIC!!!
Ninjask: Bug / DARK!!!
Yanmega: Bug / DRAGON!!! (Come ON! DrAGON fly...)
Grumpig: Psychic / DARK! (Dark colors, mind control = evil)
Feraligatr: Water / FIGHTING
Persian: Normal / DARK! (Almost all dark-moves can be learned.)
Primeape: Fighting / DARK (Because of it's temper)
Typhlosion: Fire / ELECTRIC (Because of the chaotic electric formed fire and it's body colors)
Meganium: Grass / DRAGON (Because of it's form.)
Electrivire: Electric / FIGHTING (Because of its form.)
Noctowl: Flying / PSYCHIC or DARK (Owls live in darkness and owls are very smart)
Sunflora: Grass / FIRE (SUN flower...)
Stantler: Normal / PSYCHIC (Illusions are psychic.)
Infernape: Fire / PSYCHIC (Because the fire bursts out of its head, and because apes are smart animals, and because Blaziken is already fighting/fire)
Staraptor: Flying / FIGHTING (Because of some moves it learns and because its looks.)
Vespiquen: Bug / PSYCHIC (Because of the fun of it, and because we miss a bug/psychic pokemon, we have enough bug/flying pokemon.)
 
Only thing I agree with is that Charizard should be Fire/Dragon.

Oh, and people going on abou Gyrados being Water/Dragon? Shut up, and go and read up on the Dragon Gate Waterfall myth. Thank you.
 
Only thing I agree with is that Charizard should be Fire/Dragon.

A Fire/Dragon-type Pokemon could be made for the 5th generation. Charizard is good enough as a Fire/Flying-type. Make it a Dragon-type and Earthquakes will be chasing after Charizard like a pack.
 
Gyarados being Water/Dragon would send it straight to Ubers.

Banette needs to be Normal/Ghost. Masquerain should have kept Bug/Water when it evolved. Dunsparce should be pure Flying, and Farfetch'd needs Fighting/Flying.

And what the hell is up with Palkia being Water? And Dragon for that matter? "Oh it's a legendary let's make it Dragon!" I would have preferred Palkia to be Flying/Psychic and Dialga to be Fire/Dark.
 
Gyarados: I think it would seriously make more sense to be a dragon type and water. I mean come on it can learn more Dragon type moves than flying moves

Vycksta and a bunch of other people are going to kick yourass. Good job.
 
Only thing I agree with is that Charizard should be Fire/Dragon.

I think you should agree on the Golduck and Luxray aswel, they don't make sense without the other types.
 
If the new type LIGHT, existed, then I could seen Bellosom, Sunflora, or Sunflora's evolved form be GRASS/LIGHT.
 
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I'm not sure that I follow some of the lines of reasoning being used in this thread. A Pokemon's type should be defined by its shape and/or color? That just seems kind of narrow and shortsighted somehow. I mean, using that line of reasoning, why isn't Sudowoodo a Grass type, or Doduo/Dodrio a straight Normal type? I mean, yes, they're bird-like, but the poor ***tards don't even have wings.

Pigeon-holing a Pokemon's type based on it's coloration or general body type seems to an incredibly stifling environment in which to try and exercise creativity. Just because something is deadly, frightening, and/or roars doesn't mean it has to be a Dragon or Dark type. The female sprite for Hippowdon is black and grey, has red eyes, and is giving an angry yell; does that mean it should be a Ground/Dark type?

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that it can't hurt to be a little flexible when it comes to a Pokemon's typing, because you open up so many possibilities for new ideas further down the line. Sure, sometimes you'll end up with a couple typings that seem failtastic, and invariably there's gonna be some that just plain don't make sense outside of certain cultures, but overall you get a lot of interesting and thought-provoking stuff to counterbalance the couple of blunders that might happen.

On the other hand, I too would make a change. It is the only change I can actually justify to myself, much less anyone else. I would remove Swablu's Normal type, and that's it. It makes sense to me (and possibly only me) because Swablu seems to be, for all intents and purposes, the result of a bird and a cloud rutting like bunnies, provided they could produce offspring. Again, perhaps I'm the only one who sees this, but I'm okay with Gamefreaks choosing to keep it a Normal/Flying. Perhaps someday we'll see a straight up Flying type, and maybe Swablu will lose its Normal type at that time, but I'll wait until then.
 
Some pokemon are so pathetic that they didn't get a second type...

The most pathetic pokemon mistakes that the makers of pokemon made are:
Golduck: Water / PSYCHIC!!!! (Because of the cartoons and because of the games where he can learn psychic attacks, and his looks.)
Gyarados: Water / DRAGON!!! (He has really NOTHING to do with flying.)
Volbeat: Bug / ELECTRIC!!!! (Because of a fire fly.)
Glalie: Ice / DARK!!! (DUH!)
Charizard: Fire / DRAGON (DUH!)
Gengar: Ghost /DARK (Shadow anyone?)
Marowak: Ground / DARK!! (Bones and dead)
Luxray: Electric / DARK (There are already 100 other only-electric types, this pokemon is even black colored, while everybody thought that manectric would be electric/dark they didn't, and now with their SECOND electric based pokemon that looks a bit dark they still didn't made the first electric/dark pokemon... SO STUPID!)
Garchomp: Anything but Dragon / Ground

Less pathetic but still a shame:
Ninetales: Fire / GHOST or PSYCHIC!!!
Ninjask: Bug / DARK!!!
Yanmega: Bug / DRAGON!!! (Come ON! DrAGON fly...)
Grumpig: Psychic / DARK! (Dark colors, mind control = evil)
Feraligatr: Water / FIGHTING
Persian: Normal / DARK! (Almost all dark-moves can be learned.)
Primeape: Fighting / DARK (Because of it's temper)
Typhlosion: Fire / ELECTRIC (Because of the chaotic electric formed fire and it's body colors)
Meganium: Grass / DRAGON (Because of it's form.)
Electrivire: Electric / FIGHTING (Because of its form.)
Noctowl: Flying / PSYCHIC or DARK (Owls live in darkness and owls are very smart)
Sunflora: Grass / FIRE (SUN flower...)
Stantler: Normal / PSYCHIC (Illusions are psychic.)
Infernape: Fire / PSYCHIC (Because the fire bursts out of its head, and because apes are smart animals, and because Blaziken is already fighting/fire)
Staraptor: Flying / FIGHTING (Because of some moves it learns and because its looks.)
Vespiquen: Bug / PSYCHIC (Because of the fun of it, and because we miss a bug/psychic pokemon, we have enough bug/flying pokemon.)

i aggree with MOST of these especially bolded ones

to those about the gyarados thing. i still think it should be water/dragon. i dont care that it would be made uber. i dont care that i doesnt follow the myth. they change and twist it to suit it better.

oh and venomtoh bug/flying or poison/flying but not bug/poison
 
Staraptor: Flying/Fighting
Venomoth: Bug/Flying
Luxray:Electric/Dark
Glalie: Ice/Dark
Stantler: Normal/Psychic
Psyduck/Golduck:Water/Psychic

Yes!

And who the hell says pikachu fighting/electric?????

@persian22: Pikachu is a MOUSE. MICE ShOUld bE N0rmAl!!!1111

Just shut the **** up!
 
I'm not sure that I follow some of the lines of reasoning being used in this thread. A Pokemon's type should be defined by its shape and/or color? That just seems kind of narrow and shortsighted somehow. I mean, using that line of reasoning, why isn't Sudowoodo a Grass type, or Doduo/Dodrio a straight Normal type? I mean, yes, they're bird-like, but the poor ***tards don't even have wings.

Pigeon-holing a Pokemon's type based on it's coloration or general body type seems to an incredibly stifling environment in which to try and exercise creativity. Just because something is deadly, frightening, and/or roars doesn't mean it has to be a Dragon or Dark type. The female sprite for Hippowdon is black and grey, has red eyes, and is giving an angry yell; does that mean it should be a Ground/Dark type?

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that it can't hurt to be a little flexible when it comes to a Pokemon's typing, because you open up so many possibilities for new ideas further down the line. Sure, sometimes you'll end up with a couple typings that seem failtastic, and invariably there's gonna be some that just plain don't make sense outside of certain cultures, but overall you get a lot of interesting and thought-provoking stuff to counterbalance the couple of blunders that might happen.

On the other hand, I too would make a change. It is the only change I can actually justify to myself, much less anyone else. I would remove Swablu's Normal type, and that's it. It makes sense to me (and possibly only me) because Swablu seems to be, for all intents and purposes, the result of a bird and a cloud rutting like bunnies, provided they could produce offspring. Again, perhaps I'm the only one who sees this, but I'm okay with Gamefreaks choosing to keep it a Normal/Flying. Perhaps someday we'll see a straight up Flying type, and maybe Swablu will lose its Normal type at that time, but I'll wait until then.

I'm not basing my type-changes on looks and colors only, I base them on the stories and poke-info + cartoons + movesets they have.

Persian learns allot of dark moves and is so vain and arrogant its evil, so it should be dark. (Magneton got his steel type afterward aswel)

Golduck looks, feels and plays like a psychic/water pokemon, especially when you see PSYduck in the cartoons.

@persian22: Pikachu is a MOUSE. MICE ShOUld bE N0rmAl!!!1111

Just shut the **** up!

Uhm... I never said anything about Pikachu in this topic.... why do you be so rough?
Don't you like girls or something?

Venomoth Flying/Bug
I disagree, VENOmoth should keep the bug AND poison status.
 
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How can It learns _____ moves so it should be that type be logical? All pokemon learn lots of Normal type moves, therefore they whould all be normal types.

@ Gyarados. Being a Flying type does not mean you need to Fly. Butterfree does not learn Fly, Scyther does not learn Fly, the Hoppip family do not learn fly (even when the pokedex says they soar on the wind all over the land), Drifloon does not learn Fly, Mantyke family does not learn fly, Yanma family does not learn fly, Gligar family does not learn fly. They all have the ability to fly in one way or another (be it winged flight, wind propelled flight or gliding) but why the need of one move to say "Yes you are a flying type!"
 
While basing typing off of look and movepool may be the obvious route, some Pokemon need it. Luxray needs Dark typing. Glalie needs Dark typing. Banette would be that much more usable with a Normal typing.

And I really don't care what you guys think about Gyarados. It stays Water/Flying because if it was Water/Dragon it would break with the legend, not to mention be far too powerful for OU play. And that's one less Hera counter. Hell, it barely counters Hera now with a resist.
 
Ninetails- Fire/Psychic
Shuckle- PURE ROCK
Luxray- Electric/Dark

and just to piss people off:
GYARADOS- WATER/DRAGON (this'll flare tempers)
 
^ Lawl you're so boring and predictable. Just like me with this but hey, i'm not doing it just to up my precious post count(:

TO EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT GYARADOS SHOULD BE WATER/DRAGON, THREE WORDS.

Get a clue.

You may not like it but Magikarp and Gyarados are both based on an old myth. It starts off with a weak and pathetic carp, which Magikarp is based on. This carp was desperate to prove his worth and did one day by somehow scaling a waterfall. This was watched by the Gods, who turned the carp into a flying serpent as a reward. Not a flying Dragon or even something dragonic. A flying serpent... which Gyarados is modelled on.

Nice and easy, yes? *beams* ... and don't worry, I even have a nice FAQ.

So where are Gyarados's Flying attacks?
The reason behind Gyarados's lack of flying attacks is down to the myth again. The serpent somehow went insane and decided to destroy cities with his new found power, travelling under bodies of water as a way of being unnoticed by the Gods. He may have seldom used his flying powers, but he still had them. Hence the Water/Flying Gyarados and also hence why his movepool is full of moves like Hyper Beam instead.

But surely it can learn Aerial Ace?
Aerial Ace is actually modelled on a Japanese sword fighting techinque that involved speed/agility, not brute strength. This is why the likes of Sneasel and Dugtrio can learn the move and not Gyarados.

So how come Misdreavus can learn Aerial Ace when it shares the same base speed as Gyarados?
Cause Misdreavus was based on the banshee, screeching ghosts with a feminine appearance who were capable of holding and throwing items with no question. As Aerial Ace is modelled on the already mentioned techinque, which obviously requires a sword that needs to be held Misdreavus is capable of learning Aerial Ace. The serpent which Gyarados was based on could not hold an item in any way.

But why does Gyarados look like a Dragon?
He crashed into a wall while blasting a Blaziken. *ends sarcasm* He may look like a Dragon to you, but to China and Japan serpents in mythological legends may have varied in appearance but were always legless. Gyarados has no legs, so he is a serpent to those two countries. Considering Japan is the country of Pokemon's origin...

So why is this Pokemon in the Dragon breeding group?
Why is Milotic, who is also a serpent?

How about we make Gyarados Water/Dragon with the Levitate ability so it sticks with the myth?
See the answer to the question two above this one.

Dammit! Why does this myth have to exist?
Cause like it or not, mythology is about even if you decide to ignore its existance. It's made Pokemon like Sneasel and Weavile, Drowzee and Hypno, Girafarig, Arceus and Misdreavus.

Besides, let's say that Gyarados was not based on this myth. If he was made into a Water/Dragon type, he would be the most overused Pokemon of the first generation... considering the only weakness of a Water/Dragon type is Dragon itself and the only Dragon move back then was the set 40 damage Dragon Rage. He would have been more broken than Charizard and we all know how much that Pokemon has a hatebase.

Will you ever quit being a mythology freak?
No, so ha.

There you have it. Any more queries on Gyarados, throw them my way on Sneasel shaped paper... and the funny thing is, I never get bored of typing this over and over and over. People can whinge all they want, but I couldn't care less.

*waves flag for Gyarados* Not just a Sneasel freak, kiddies!
 
Isn't this reminiscent of an old thread...or multiple old threads. It's riddled with "this pokemon learns this attack, so it should be this type!", "this pokemon is this color, so it should be this type!", "this pokemon looks mean so it should be a Dark type!", accompanied by the standard fire/dragon charizard and water/dragon gyarados statements, "dustox/beedrill/venomoth should be flying types cuz they gots wingz and can still be hit by earthquake!!", and "why is gengar poison??".

Anyway, the only ones I would like to change are golduck to water/psychic, luxray to electric/dark (and not just because the way it looks, but because of it being an x-ray which has a lighter area (electric) and a darker area (dark), as well as to rid it of its name as the inferior physical manectric). I've given up on pretty much all other pokemon types I have stated I wanted to change in the past because they really aren't needed.

I think that pretty much covers what any future posts might say.
 
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Ninetales = Fire/Ghost
Flygon = Dragon/Bug
Volbeat/Illumise = Bug/Electric
Charizard = Fire/Dragon
Gyarados = Water/Dragon... but then again, it's grat stats and lsck of weaknesses would make it godly... same for charizard.
Gengar = No more levitating... he just doesn't... sorry
Dunsparce = ground/flying

that's all I've got for now, but more will come.
 
Sonic The Hedgedawg said:
Gyarados = Water/Dragon... but then again, it's grat stats and lsck of weaknesses would make it godly... same for charizard.
Do you have trouble reading size 1 Georgia?
 
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