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Krake

Flabebe's Kids
DISCLAIMER: I do not intend for this to be a flame towards people who have these opinions, nor do I think that these opinions apply to every Pokemon fan (I would know, since I sure don't). It also occurs to me that this might fall under the "Anti-purist" ring of threads that I've seen in this section, or whatever thereof, so if it does, than this thread can be closed.

Looking through the comments towards any new 5th generation announcement, I noticed that a lot of people tend to overreact towards the news, particularly the new Pokemon. Many of them fall under the lines of "So and so Pokemon/feature is horrible!!! If Pokemon thinks that they can get my money, then they are truly mistaken *sticks nose up*".

Now I know that not everyone will like every Pokemon/feature, but I'm kind of surprised at how many people say things like such, and these aren't the people who chose to not play after a certain generation. To those who it may concern, I ask an honest question: Why do you keep on purchasing the new games?

It is apparent that you won't be satisfied, seeing as that if a Pokemon is more detailed, complaints will be had, and vice versa if the Pokemon is off a simpler design; They'll be accused of looking like Digimon or Yu-Gi-Oh! monsters (even though there is no specific criteria for a Pokemon aside from having a Pokedex number).

If a feature is added or taken away, it's the same thing. For example, when HG/SS was announced, some people, rather than be happy that a widely wanted remake for 2nd gen being announced, decided to complain about the Pokemon following, among the other new features that were announced at a later date. Even the grass fell under criticism.

This would be different if it were a feature that affected the game more, like the 3-on-3 battles that will appear in B/W (which I didn't care for at first, but doesn't seen that bad now), but the fact that many fans would complain over minute details like the whole series is ruined is kind of sad.

So I guess my main point is that I'm confused why some Pokemon fans (or any other video game) have to complain incessantly as opposed to just waiting until the game comes out to decide whether it's bad or not. This might fall under deaf ears, but it kind of annoys me how many 'fans' oppose change, complaining how the game is ruined, yet buy the game anyway (some even might import or buy both games on the release date) and either continue to complain or enjoy the game, while only a few people who actually don't care for the new content actually buy the game.

tl;dr Pokemon fans need to stop complaining and learn to enjoy the new games or just be quiet and not even bother.
 
Eh.
Internet people are whiney.

People generally tend to get nervous when things that they've been comfortable with suddenly change. As each generation brings a new set of enhancements, changes are suddenly brought on, and our dear fanboys and girls FREAK OUT. At first. Later they buy the game, play it for a while, and love it all over again.
 
people complain over anything if they could.
 
Any fan site of any media attracts the most hardcore fans, both who love the series currently, or used to and despite it now. That's why.

Fan sites do not necessarily reflect the thousands or millions of other people out there.
 
Exactly randomspot. Any media with as big a fanbase as Pokémon will have a faction of people who are contantly complaining about it. Think about Metallica. No matter what they do, there's always some group of people saying that should've done the exact opposite. It's just how it is. The end up buying it anyway.

I remember when D/P was first coming out, there was this one guy who was bringing up a sh*tstorm over how D/P ruined the games forever. Just because his precious Alakazam wasn't as f*cking amazing as it used to be. i bet he ended up buying it anhyway. That's life.
 
So, you guys done preaching to the choir yet?

Seriously, it's like you guys are expecting a level of maturity from a fanbase about what is primarily a children's videogame.
 
Yes, People do overreact to the news of a purported 'new Pokémon'. Well, I think that it's a trick that happens per new game.
 
Most of these people want Pokemon to cater to their every demand. Never satisfied, generally hypocritical and eternally throwing criticism at the smallest of things.

I say, ignore them, and enjoy what you enjoy.
 
BlitzBlast said:
So, you guys done preaching to the choir yet?

Seriously, it's like you guys are expecting a level of maturity from a fanbase about what is primarily a children's videogame.
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Point taken, even though my OP can apply to just about any franchise. All you'd have to do is replace certain words.
 
Well, thats how it is with any game franchise. You will have people b***h and complain about the games before and when it comes out. But obviously many of those ppl who be complainin still get the games anyway so whatever they complain about wont stop them from buying the games.

Dattebayo said:
This is all too true; there's even a comic based on what you said: http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=442984
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^ ha, very true
 
So I guess my main point is that I'm confused why some Pokemon fans (or any other video game) have to complain incessantly as opposed to just waiting until the game comes out to decide whether it's bad or not.
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Pokemon fans aren't that bad.... compared to Gears of War fans.
Seriously, I love GoW and the b**** about EVERYTHING. Recently
a trailer for GoW 3 was released and they claimed that the weapons
were unbalanced....... really? Just the other day they were whining
because people were AIMING with their freakin guns T.T

At least Pokemon is an E game it has an excuse. Gears of War doesn't.
 
I disagree that people who complain should are fed up with the series and should stop playing. If that were true they would simply stop playing. But people who complain tend to do so because they are really passionate about pokemon and love to play it. Otherwise why would they bother being upset?
 
Look at it this way, with less expectations if the games come out bad (which is rare for pokemon but...) then it isn't as big a blow of dissapointment but enter a great game with same expectations and your experience is much greater. Does that make any sense?
 
KAS said:
I disagree that people who complain should are fed up with the series and should stop playing. If that were true they would simply stop playing. But people who complain tend to do so because they are really passionate about pokemon and love to play it. Otherwise why would they bother being upset?
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Noted, but I've seen someone (who I won't name) go around ostentatiously bragging that he doesn't care for Black and White and that anyone that does like it is sucking up. It's annoying.

I don't have a problem with people who don't like the new Pokemon; it's the people that say that Pokemon is ruined under no basis because of something suggestive, and my question is why people complain so much over the games, but then end up buying the games and enjoying them (like in the comic Dattebayo posted), and the cycle has, and most likely will, go on and on.

Sonic527 said:
Look at it this way, with less expectations if the games come out bad (which is rare for pokemon but...) then it isn't as big a blow of dissapointment but enter a great game with same expectations and your experience is much greater. Does that make any sense?
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Yes, but as stated, this can apply to just about any franchise. I've heard that some Sonic fans have complained about Sonic's shoes in the upcoming Sonic 4.

Granted, that's Sonic, who hasn't really been doing so well as of late, but it still applies.
 
Worse yet is the fact that the complaining has elevated to the level that people are complaining about people complaining.

Lawl.

The internet has given everyone a voice and sadly does not inhibit those lacking intellect and/or patience from obscuring any actual reason(s) discussion threads exist.
 
Krake said:
Yes, but as stated, this can apply to just about any franchise. I've heard that some Sonic fans have complained about Sonic's shoes in the upcoming Sonic 4.

Granted, that's Sonic, who hasn't really been doing so well as of late, but it still applies.
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Funny you should mention that... As a member of the Sonic fandom since before most of the series' current fandom was born maybe I can help you understand what you're confused about in general even though I don't feel that way about Pokemon.

Sonic has done really bad in most people's eyes over the last decade or so. Some people will lap up anything with colourful anthros, that's the only explanation I can come up with for most of the series' current active fanbase. However, as someone who loved the series way back when I will still buy newer games in hopes they will be better than they have been lately. I know it's stupid, I am rarely happy with the game I bought but I will always hope because I remember what it was when I loved it (and still play those games to this day and still love them).

Unlike others I have hope for Sonic 4 (though I'm sad to see them push back the date) because I see it as him returning to his routes, 2d platformer play (even with 3d graphics) is best for that series.

Now that may seem entirely off topic but it makes a point. A lot of people that complain about the current state of Pokemon seem to do so because they don't like the newer pokemon but they keep playing for a chance to use their favourites with updated graphics. Some of those people will occasionally come upon a newer pokemon they love and buying the game would have made it even more worth it. I know I've gotten a lot of new favourites since picking the series back up in the last year.

There have been other complaints about gameplay, storyline, etc but those people who make those complaints and still buy the games seem to generally fall for the same trap I do with Sonic games, they hope the game will recapture whatever it was that made them love the series in the first place. I know that's why my brother's Leaf Green was the first newer game I played after getting Crystal about seven years before. I didn't even intend to play anything newer but I got hooked again and don't really have much a complaint about the current state of the games but I can kind of understand some of the complaints people do have.
 
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