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Wish Support

Scarlet Spyder

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What Pokemon are good to use with Wish Support. I plan on using a Choice Bander with my Elemence to go with my Wish Passer.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Sassy (+ Special Defense, - Speed)
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Toxic
-Moonlight

What would the EV's look like for such an Umbreon?

For those that dont know, this is a brief explanation of Wish Passing.
Normally, when you use Wish, you'd switch to another Pokemon and that Pokemon would take a hit, then get healed by wish. However, with Umbreon's super low speed, Umbreon will take the hit, Baton Pass to a Pokemon, and that Pokemon will get healed without taking damage.
 
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Any sweeper is good for wish-passing really, and for the EV's, 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Spd
 
I'd give him some Special Defense EV's, instead of speed. And some out of either Defense or HP.
 
Having Wish and Moonlight on the same set seems useless. Also, Baton Pass isn't doing anything. Wish is automatically there for the next Pokémon, you don't need to Baton Pass it. You could replace Moonlight with Mean Look, that way foes are trapped and take the full effect of Toxic. Then Baton Pass the Mean Look's effects on to another Pokémon that can counter the foe.
 
It takes 6 turns for the opponent to die of Toxic. 3 if you keep attacking the opponent. Follow Scepgatr's suggestions. You could have Perish Song on another pokemon if you want to.
 
Pokemon rarely switch in-game, though. Also, I may take Moonlight off of Umbreon for something else. Taunt maybe? Taunt-pass to a counter maybe?
 
Taunt-Pass fails.

Taunt only works right after you used it. You can't Pass it at all, as Taunt's effect would have gone.
 
I'm asking you? I have another move whilst poison kills the opponent to keep me entertained but i only need 3 pokemon to own the whole opposition so...
 
Then use your 3 ZOMG SUPER UBER pokemon to just OWN the opponent's *ss then. And what are you trying to ask me?
 
I don't even need to use the ubers to win, I can replace them with any other pokemon and still win
 
I don't even need to use the ubers to win, I can replace them with any other pokemon and still win
you remind me of someone.. i just cant remember who..

winning ingame is not much. try fighting real people over netbattle.

DT is luck haxxing which you cant rely on. direct attacking moves on umby are stupid.
 
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lol, this top 8 guy says he's from Down Under. There are so many top 8 guys around, I'm confused. But if one thing's for certain, these "top 8" guys sure do make a fool of themselves on these forums.
 
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