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A pattern?

Matty_G33 said:
Gust is weak, and Bugs, even if Hera, Sciz and Forry are good, everything else is ****.
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Clearly you haven't even tried to train bug types before.

Vespiquen is rather good, good stats, reliable healing move, and a 90 power high critical hit ratio stab move.

Butterfree can be useful. A sleep powder/dream eater does some good damage. Give it Bug buzz and Tailwind and there you have a (sort of) sweeper.
 
Night_Umbreon said:
Clearly you haven't even tried to train bug types before.

Vespiquen is rather good, good stats, reliable healing move, and a 90 power high critical hit ratio stab move.

Butterfree can be useful. A sleep powder/dream eater does some good damage. Give it Bug buzz and Tailwind and there you have a (sort of) sweeper.
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But few Bug-types have the perfect combo of great movepool (Butterfree)and great stats (Vespiquen).

When they create a Bug/Dark-type, I'll set it on the 'Bug-types are crap' people.
 
Matty_G33 said:
What can Burmy and Wormadam do? They can suck balls, that's it..
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Point being? There's a Pokemon from every type that isn't competitive even in UU (leaving out NU for not being a defined tier yet). Bug has some of the most specilised, and therefore most useful, Pokes in OU. Ninjask is a prime example, being the archetype of a great Batton Passer. Forretress the Spinner/Spiker, Hera the Physical sweeper, Yanmega the special. Bug as a type may not be particularily great Defencivly or Offencivly, but it has some key assets in Super Effectivness against Psychic and Dark types, enough to make it the prefered Hidden Power on several Pokemon, which is more than can be said for several other types. No-ones debating Steels usefulness (Dragon resist FTW) but it's useless as a Hidden Power.

Bug is also one of the dominating type of sweepers in the UnderUsed tier. Pinsir is easily the most debatable UU there is right now, alongside Scyther. Venomoth has great potential, and Shuckle walls quite effectivly in UU. Armaldo is also quite threatening and Butterfree serves as a decent Double Powderer. We also musn't be forgetting Shedinjas usefullness in Ubers.
 
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Lord_Sunday said:
Point being? There's a Pokemon from every type that isn't competitive even in UU (leaving out NU for not being a defined tier yet). Bug has some of the most specilised, and therefore most useful, Pokes in OU. Ninjask is a prime example, being the archetype of a great Batton Passer. Forretress the Spinner/Spiker, Hera the Physical sweeper, Yanmega the special. Bug as a type may not be particularily great Defencivly or Offencivly, but it has some key assets in Super Effectivness against Psychic and Dark types, enough to make it the prefered Hidden Power on several Pokemon, which is more than can be said for several other types. No-ones debating Steels usefulness (Dragon resist FTW) but it's useless as a Hidden Power.
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And really, Wormadam's the only competitive Bug/Ground here.
 
Lord_Sunday said:
Nincada :P
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Wormadam is the only bug/ ground actually being fuly evolved then xP
and for some reason everyone evolves theyre pokemon so.. yeah only competive xD
 
you know what I noticed? every odd gen has more things on science (first gen - DNA tests [Mewtwo], third gen - Rocket testing, subs) and every even gen has to do more about myths and religion (second gen - ho-oh, burnt tower, fourth gen - arceus, story of origin [?] ).
 
Matty_G33 said:
Bug is already a godawful type, why make more when there's HEAPS?
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Bug is not a 'godawful' type. Grass and physics, both very popular choices suffer greatly from bug types. Bug also opens the door to many erratic learners, and speedy baton passers. *Coughninjaskcough*. Heracross and Yanmega are both excellent offenses, as Vespiquen and Foretress are nice defensive walls.
It's all in how you use them.
 
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Okay my opinion on the bug matter, gonna seem a bit odd.

Bug types, both pokemon and attacks, are the salt of the pokemon world. Too much is considered horrible by many, enough to turn people off to something sometimes, but without it the world is dull and nothing really 'pops'. The trick is to have everything in balance, and balance is a key component in the pokemon world.

Plus, if it weren`t for the bug type then we wouldn`t have gotten pokemon anyway.
 
Kinda reminds me of rodents and birds thread, but yes I do see a pattern. I think very well that they will keep this up.
 
It's going to end up being a butterfly or moth. They like butterflies.
 
Stinkbug.*sniff**aaaaaaaaaaaaachooooooooooooooooo*
 
Night_Umbreon said:
Clearly you haven't even tried to train bug types before.
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I have an EV Trained Heracross, but's that the only good bug besides Forry, Sicz, and Yanmega. Everything else just gets murdered by Stealth Rock, even if you're rather decent (hi2u Scyther and Vespiquen).
 
Matty_G33 said:
Ninjask, the Pokemon that can be countered by a lot...lulz.
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Yeah, but Ninjask has to be to most OU Bug-type or Heracross, Foretress is like 4th

But I like the Fire ant Idea, it could evolve into something that doesnt become useless afterthe 2nd Gym, as is the case with Butterfree and Beedrill, But i've found that Heracross, Venomouth and Scizor can be main team members and do alot of damage
 
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