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DarkLegend

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I have some questions about EV training because even though I'm not a competetive battler, EV training has caught my interest ...
WARNING! Technical stuff to follow

Q1. According to serebii's game mechanics page, the max EV points you can get is 510 but each stat can have only have 255 points assigned to it. Thus, you will definitely be able to max out (provided IV's are decent) at the very least 2 stats. Now, we know that 4 EV's = 1 extra stat point on leveling up which results in 64 (255/4 = 63.75 ~ 64) EXTRA stat points overall which is insane. However, it then goes on to say that only 32 stat points is possible. How did they get the 32 from 64?


Q2. Is it possible to EV train from the moment you begin the game seeing as how not a huge variety of pokemon who give EV's in different stats are available early on?

Q3. A silly question. In D/P, say I max out my Charizard's (say Lv. 50) DEFENSE. Will it be able to survive a single STAB'ed Rock Slide from say a Rhydon (Lv. 50) despite the 4X weakness?
 
Q.2: No, apparently to correctly or usefully EV train, you need to battle and rebattle the same pokemon that gives you stat boosts (or whatever it was called), so if you started with a charizard, and wanted to max out its Special Attack, you would need to battle 100 (i think it was 100) golbats or zubats, however, in the start of the game, there is no such pokemon.

Q.3: Probably no.
 
Ah! I see!
Thanks for your time!
I guess the team you start with can't really be EV trained well....

EDIT: And thanks for answering that 3rd one as well, just a technical question that I asked for fun.
 
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I have a question regarding EV training.

Say for example, again charizard, Im training him to raise his speed, if he is at lvl 100 already and I lower his other stats using berries would I be able to train his speed and still have it increase even though he cant gain anymore levels? Especially since every 4EV=1 stat point?
 
Q1: No idea, must be a typo somewhere... btw, I haven't found it on the page you mentioned... now if you're talking IVs, then there are 31 points max to add. But you can get a maximum of 63 extra points in a stat if you EV train it for that stat. Note however, that it doesn't make sense to train for 255 EVs, for that number isn't divisible by 4. Therefore, you should train no further than 252 EVs, for 63 stat points, and add the remaining points in another stat. If you desire 63 points in one stat however, where it may be smarter to invest in other stats as well... it all depends on the pokémon and the strategy you use.

Q2: Well you automatically EV-train in the beginning when you kill the first Starly's and Bidoof's actually... so technically it's not, for you can't KO the right pokémon yet. But there are items that decrease, yes DECREASE EVs in a stat, so you might be able to start all over again if you wish... don't know where you can get it right now however.

Q3: There are damage calculators all over the internets. Actually, everything I've said here is all over the internets. Try smogon, psypokes or bulbapedia, or Serebii's own Game Mechanics pages.


Gotian, too bad, your lv. 100 Charizard won't gain anything. You see, EVs aren't added immediately, only when you level up is when the new stats are calculated. And even further, the definite stats are only calculated when your poke reaches lv. 100. By then, it should be long done EV training, so there should be nothing to worry about. However, since it needs to level up to actually gain the EVs, and your Charizard can't level up anymore, he won't gain them.
 
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Ah I got ya, i was just wondering, though my charizard is already maxxed out on EV points, I am making another belly drum charizard so I wanted to know, thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
Originally Posted By Saurior

Q1: No idea, must be a typo somewhere... btw, I haven't found it on the page you mentioned... now if you're talking IVs, then there are 31 points max to add. But you can get a maximum of 63 extra points in a stat if you EV train it for that stat. Note however, that it doesn't make sense to train for 255 EVs, for that number isn't divisible by 4. Therefore, you should train no further than 252 EVs, for 63 stat points, and add the remaining points in another stat. If you desire 63 points in one stat however, where it may be smarter to invest in other stats as well... it all depends on the pokémon and the strategy you use
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OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Thanks Saurion!
I get it. That must be a typo. They must have been talking about IV's or something else. Basically, 64 in one stat is possible but it is better to invest in others as well because your pokemon can't go beyond it's max.

Originally Posted By Saurior

Q2: Well you automatically EV-train in the beginning when you kill the first Starly's and Bidoof's actually... so technically it's not, for you can't KO the right pokémon yet. But there are items that decrease, yes DECREASE EVs in a stat, so you might be able to start all over again if you wish... don't know where you can get it right now however.
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COOL! Even though it doesn't really matter ingame, EV training can still yield some surprising and rather amusing results. However, I'm never touching IV's... too much hassle. I'll have to look for these items and berries you mentioned
 
yeah there are different berries you can find or recieve from the berry master in D/P he will sometimes give you those berries which i suggest you plant for more, thought they will take a long time to grow. Each of those stat redicing berries reduces you EV points for the stat by 10
 
Gotian said:
yeah there are different berries you can find or recieve from the berry master in D/P he will sometimes give you those berries which i suggest you plant for more, thought they will take a long time to grow. Each of those stat redicing berries reduces you EV points for the stat by 10
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These berries are #21 to #26
And if for example you have 150 of EV at att
You use one and it gets 100, and so, it keeps decreasing by 10
If you wanna get them to 0, and you have more than 100points
Use 11 of them
:)
 
DarkLegend said:
OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Basically, 64 in one stat is possible but it is better to invest in others as well because your pokemon can't go beyond it's max.
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Actually, because the EVs max out at 255 (which isn't divisible by 4), then the max you can ever achieve is 63 points. This is why when maxing out, most people go for 252 EVs. If you go for a spread of 252/252 then you gain 63 points in two stats and still have 6 additional EVs to add to any other stat you choose.
 
Cool! Thanks for clearing it up Voltaic!
63 is quite a generous number... which can only be good
DAMN! No wonder people obsess over this stuff...
 
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You couldn't successfully EV Train your Starter, but a few other Pokemon you might be able to EV Train once you Nab them. If you stayed in the same place for hours, you could probably get a nicely EV Trained Starly before the first Gym (pointless as it is for Roark).
 
Well the needs of few outweigh the needs of many...
But you could always breed and have that perfect starter you always wanted....
However, those EV decreasing things would still work right?
But I guess for the starter breeding is far more convenient
 
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the EV decreasing would still work on your original starter, but it may be too high lvl before you get those berries to start all over again, especially since the average person beats the game with their starter at lvl 55-65.

Im on my 7th charmander, lol. But i dont mind, I love breeding fire types or can't you tell?
 
lol! Your trainer card shows your love...
 
Icosahedron said:
Gotta love how everybody misses the bolded and underlined "This is not a game help forum." =/ Topic asks for help on EV's, which probably belongs in, say, the EV discussion thread or something.
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^ Said it best, imo.

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