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Extinct!

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Ethan

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So I've been getting into Jurrasic park(The actual book, not the movie you losers) the idea of bringing back extinct animals has become incredibly interesting to me. Cloning, genetic engineering, what have you. Ironic thing is, Crichton wrote Jurrasic park to warn people of all the dangers, but it makes my inner fascination say "Clone dammit, clone the damn things!"

So what do make of extinct species being brought back to life and being put in your local zoo? Or something like that. Whatever. :)
 
The blood they extract from the mosquito's of that time would be too old to bring back dinosaurs. Recent species might work, however. But since some species have gone extinct due to evolving, we wouldn't need those. I like this idea though.
 
I think it would be awesome, even if it was something mundane. I'd expect simple/recent things to be cloned first, then more 'advanced'/ancient things.

I wonder how it could be done, though. Certainly they could clone something like those frozen mammoths. Apparently, though, not enough DNA is in any (or altogether) amber to clone anything decent. Then there's the problem of keeping the cloned beast alive without it's proper food.

An alternative to cloning is bioengineering a related living species into a look-alike. For example, grow an emu's tail and arms, and you got a 'dinosaur.'
But that's stretching it, and I hate it.
 
Well scientists are planning to revive a few recently extince species to give them a proper chance (as in our ancesters killed them, or helped).

Also, sicentists are so optermistic about brining some of the animals back, a nature preserve has been built for them in siberia, mimicing thier natural habitat and wildlife neigbours.

Heres the list as far as I can remember:
Whooly Mammoth
Short faced bear
Smilodon
Dodo
 
I am also reading Jurassic Park.
I would think that it seems like a good idea when you think about it, but when/if this ever goes through then we will have a disaster.

There is a reason why the all the animals that went extinct went extinct for a reason. They could overrun our live-stock and therefore leading to food diprevation.

All-in-all, no.
 
Depends. I saw something on TV saying that bones carry DNA, so it's probably feasible. Some of these animals, like many people have said, don't need to be brought back because of the danger they possess or because they evolved into extinction.
 
I heard about the wooly mammoth thing man, that one is almost a reality I do believe. There's no point in bringing em back though man, no point at all. They died for a reason - if you reintroduce them to nature you're gonna upset the balance. And if you bring them back purely for Zoos, as a spectacle, then you dishonour what they were and are. The only possible reason you could argue for is for scientific research I suppose, carouselambra thinks thats pretty futile dude. Beyond the initial gimmick of seeing these dead beasts live again, there's not much actual use. We should be trying to stop the ones that are here now from dying instead of creating a fall-back system like this. Then people are gonna say "well it doesnt matter, screw it we dont have to do anything we can let them all die; we can always revive them in the future" :rolleyes: whats that gonna achieve?


Whooly Mammoth
Short faced bear
Smilodon
Dodo
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christ murphy and jones man, correct me if im wrong but isnt a smilodon that big ******* lizard that kills everything? :|
 
Well considering human beings did cause an awful amount of damage to many species, I think if there would be a way to bring back extinct species would be excellent.
For instance, a woman from Cornell University figured out a way to bring back the whole speciman of a Dodo bird. Considering that the entire island of Mauritius will eventually end up extinct because of the "dumb as a dodo" dutch sailors who killed them all off didn't know that the Dodos helped a now critically endangered specie of tree to grow. Since there is no whole speciman of a dodo around, an entire body would be excellent. If the body would be able to be brought back and then maybe be "zapped" to life, then an entire new generation would start of once extinct animals.
Passenger Pigeons and T-Rex. This would probably be one of the most bittersweet scientific discoveries.

Why isn't there a Dodo Fossil Pokémon yet?
 
I approve. I'd love to see Wooly Mammoths and Dodos running around everywhere.

But on the downside, the animals might merely turn into attractions at large zoos, their only purpose being monetary gain, like that polar bear, Knut or whatever his name is.
 
Well! Last November a near complete mammoth DNA sequence was published and even though resurrecting animals is impossible right now, molecular biologists are very optimistic. You need to have a complete genome sequence so Jurassic Park isn't going to be happening, but other extinct animal genomes are already being sequenced. They decide which ones to sequence based on feasability and what they call "megafaunal charisma" which is just how cool they are.

They have the Sabre toothed tiger (whos surrogate mother would be an african lion), a short faced bear (a third taller than a polar bear!) woolly rhinos (regular rhinos would be the surrogates) and an Irish Elk, which would be an awesome thing to throw into Ireland. My favourite out of the list is the giant sloth, but since the adults are six metres tall a three toed sloth wouldn't work very well as a surrogate.

I personally think that dinosaurs would taste disgusting, so I'm against it.
 
christ murphy and jones man, correct me if im wrong but isnt a smilodon that big ******* lizard that kills everything? :|
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No, it's a saber tooth tiger.

We'd also have to get rid of most domestic animals on the islands to sustain a dodo population again.
 
I'm in love with the idea.

I really don't know why. Ever since I saw the movies when I was little and then read the books ... I don't know. It just seems like a great idea.
It doesn't have to be dinosaurs, I wouldn't mind bringing back things like the Thyclaine, Dodo, or those cool deer things.

The only flaw is(Besides it's reckless and dangerous. >_>) that it can upset the "Natural Balance". Taking away food that other animals need or causing danger to the dwindling species...

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I want a pet Velociraptor. It'd be awesome.
 
Interesting idea... I heard somewhere that they were going to use mammoth DNA and breed hairy elephants to feed Russia... It sounds interesting...

I'm not sure if they could stand up to diseases that they have no tolerance to, either...
 
To reintroduce them into the wild is one thing, however if we could bring them back, I'd imagine it would be because we wanted to study one first hand. Obviously, they are extinct for a reason. Also, even if they could thrive, the last thing that is needed is an invasive species.
 
gleamingxxpidgeot said:
Why isn't there a Dodo Fossil Pokémon yet?
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LOL, I agree. Anyway, it'd be nice we can revive extinct birds like Dodos. I'm not really into reviving ancient icons like the T-rex or Mammoth. I prefer more recent extinct species revived.
 
I'm not really sure I understand the whole "upset the balance of nature" If the animals are indeed brought back, it's not like we would be re-introducing them to the wild or anything. Anyone can see the nonsense in that. The only reason to bring any of them back would be scientific research. No one is going to try and re-introduce the t-rex to North America again, I mean seriously guys. Think. One argument that does make sense for not bring them back is if they carried a strain of some unknown virus that existed thousands, or millions of years of ago. Imagine, if a disease that existed ages ago, was re-introduced to todays world. We'd have no immunity. It makes for a very nasty situation. That's a pretty tough argument that I can understand, not the argument that "These species went extinct for a reason" Um, not really. A big rock came down and wiped the suckers out. It doesn't really say anything about the superiority, or inferiority of the animal. I mean after all, it was a damn big rock from space, not very many things survived it, not just the dinos. In other words, if we are speaking of dinosaurs in particular, they didn't go extinct because nature selected them to be extinct. They went extinct because they were shit out of luck. :P

And yeah, I so want a pet t-rex. I'd name it fefe.
 
Babylon said:
I'm not really sure I understand the whole "upset the balance of nature" If the animals are indeed brought back, it's not like we would be re-introducing them to the wild or anything. Anyone can see the nonsense in that. The only reason to bring any of them back would be scientific research. No one is going to try and re-introduce the t-rex to North America again, I mean seriously guys. Think. One argument that does make sense for not bring them back is if they carried a strain of some unknown virus that existed thousands, or millions of years of ago. Imagine, if a disease that existed ages ago, was re-introduced to todays world. We'd have no immunity. It makes for a very nasty situation. That's a pretty tough argument that I can understand, not the argument that "These species went extinct for a reason" Um, not really. A big rock came down and wiped the suckers out. It doesn't really say anything about the superiority, or inferiority of the animal. I mean after all, it was a damn big rock from space, not very many things survived it, not just the dinos. In other words, if we are speaking of dinosaurs in particular, they didn't go extinct because nature selected them to be extinct. They went extinct because they were shit out of luck. :P

And yeah, I so want a pet t-rex. I'd name it fefe.
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Excluding the impact area, there was still quite a bit of natural selection in play. The big animals and the overly specialized animals went extinct. That's why mammals and small dinosaurs (in the form of birds) survived. They didn't rely on big food sources like the giant herbivores and carnivores of the time.
 
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