Generation flip

[profpeanut]

Here's something to think about: What if the generations flipped their order, thereby making the current generation (4th) the first one? (And so on.)
To make myself clearer: imagine that the first starters were not Squirtle, Bulbasaur and Charmander, but instead Piplup, Turtwig and Chimchar. Imagine that Red and Blue took place in Sinnoh instead of Kanto, and Diamond/Pearl introduced Dragonite and Pikachu.

For the sake of discussion, all Pokemon lines of an evo go to that generation (i.e. The Duskull line goes to Dusknoir's generation) partly to beef up the number, but mostly to avoid confusion. Also, assume that the baby Pokemon and legendaries stay in their generations (Elekid and Lugia are still in Johto) and metagame additions still go on track. (physical/special split still in DS games)

 

[octoboy]

I would love to see what advance and duo screen pokemon would look like as retro sprites. Devamps just aren't enough (really, just discoloring something should not count as devamping it)

 

[Star Dust]

I would really want to see what they would have done with the more complicated sprites and see if they would still have begun with abilities, genders, etc. It probably would have all been put in their respective gens, but they made the pokemon of this gen, in accordance to the previous gens. There was no dark type in 1st gen, but they put it in the 2nd. Would it have been the same case if the gens were split?

 

[Lord Scalgon]

If I remember correctly, the 2nd gen Pokedex did that. Went by something like:

(somewhere around entry #220 or so)
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Larvitar
Pupitar
Tyranitar
Lugia
Ho-oh
Mewtwo
Mew
Celebi

...or something like that. I could be wrong, but I do know for sure the last three entries were Mewtwo, Mew, and Celebi.

 

[Star Dust]

If I remember correctly, the 2nd gen Pokedex did that. Went by something like:

(somewhere around entry #220 or so)
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Larvitar
Pupitar
Tyranitar
Lugia
Ho-oh
Mewtwo
Mew
Celebi

...or something like that. I could be wrong, but I do know for sure the last three entries were Mewtwo, Mew, and Celebi.

The numbers stayed the same. Mew and Mewtwo were still 150-151 and the starters were still at the beggining. I think.

 

[Lord Scalgon]

The numbers stayed the same. Mew and Mewtwo were still 150-151 and the starters were still at the beggining. I think.

I mean, when you look in the Pokedex in G/S/C (not in numeric format).

 

[Dragodynamite]

It would be kinda confusive... I mean... We would like say: "Charmander is such a Chimchar clone" etc. and we all would hate blaziken...

 

[you]

If that was the case we'd be flooded by Pacharisu everywhere instead of Pikachu...

 

[Blazios]

In the animé, Roark would be travelling with Lucas.

 

[profpeanut]

I mean, when you look in the Pokedex in G/S/C (not in numeric format).

Err.... way to go off topic. Now look for a Red/Blue sprite of Charizard and imagine Infernape in that kind of spriting.

 

[Star Dust]

They would have made a fitting electric type for Ash, who would still be the same main character.

 

[octoboy]

It would be kinda confusive... I mean... We would like say: "Charmander is such a Chimchar clone" etc. and we all would hate blaziken...

Really? So, everyone hates typhlosion, do they?

-_-;;;

Yeah, carnivine would probably get it the worst, because he only gets love for being new (in the anime).

Though a problem is that some pokemon evolve associated with genders now. Does that mean that the game would deprogress over time?

 

[Chibbichan]

It would be really wierd. The sprite of Piplup, Turtwig, and Chimchar might be completely different.

 

[arcanine lover]

Lucas would have Pachirisu, and travel with Roark, who would have Cranidos. -___-;;

 

[darkgamerGS]

Well, if they started with D/P Pokemon and ended with R/B Pokemon, then there'd be Dark types in Kanto and more Steel types than Magnemite and Magneton... also, Shedinja would be completely pointless, as abilities wouldn't be introduced until the G/S/C Pokemon. Also the fact that Darkrai would be completely pointless due to no Bad Dreams, and Arceus would be forced to come out R/B, anyway, due to its stats. Would there even be East/West Shellos and Gastrodon, Burmy/Wormadam cloaks, and would there even be a Mothim? There's too many things like that to think about. Trade evolutions with items and friendship evolutions wouldn't be possible until second gen, which eliminates Togepi, Munchlax, Dusknoir, etc. So... many... things left out...

 

[Praetor]

i think if you reversed the order a lot less people would have ever played pokemon, there'd have been no mascots like omnipresent pikachu. there would probably have been no cars associated with pokemon pokemon probably would have fizzled after the 1st gen because 4th gen now sux

 

[Aviano]

Poeple would totally hate the newer generations because most of them suck.

 

[surfer treecko]

This is a good question. Feebas would be "the pathetic useless pokemon" instead of magikarp and dragonite would be blamed for being to simalar to salamence. But what about baby pokemon? Pichu and the like would be useless until they get their evolutions. Also, I disagree with the whole "Sinnohs pokemon suck" thing. And last but not least, poffin would be the original pokemon snack instead of pokeblocks! (that is good by the way).

 

[intergalactic platypus]

People would be talking about how the Kanto Pokemon fail since they're new, and they would go on about how much they love Glameow and Luxray

 

[octoboy]

One thing I wonder is if pachirisu would be the main pokemon. It may seem obvious because it's pikachu's obvious counterpart, but would it really have what it takes to be the main pokemon? There's more to it than just being electric. Pikachu has the fact that it looks like some random electric critter, while pachirisu is just a squirrel. I don't know if pachirisu could make it in and of itself.

And what would meowth be in the anime? He wouldn't be a glameow, because glameow and stunky/ purugly and skuntank would be more like arbok and weezing (wait, only one of them would be like that. Had the anime followed the game directly, Jessie would have had grimer, not arbok).

I wonder what arbok and meowth would be replaced by.

Another thing is would extra evolutions just be there on their own, or would the whole line be there? Would rhyperior be a single pokemon, then get horn/don as pre-evolutions, or would the line already be there?