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TruetoCheese

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Hey there I'm new to competitive battling and was looking for my team to be rated. It's got its weaknesses and so forth but I want to get some advice on them.

Here they are!

Yanmega @Leftovers
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EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
Ability: Speed Boost
-Bug Buzz
-Air Slash
-Protect
-Hypnosis

Basically my lead. Its got a standard moveset and ok coverage for most leads.

Breloom @Toxic Orb
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EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Poison Heal
-Focus Blast
-Leech Seed
-Spore
-Substitute

She(Ya it's a girl.) takes down others slowly but also keeps most of her HP intact due to poison heal+toxic orb along with leech seed and spore.


Donphan @Life Orb
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EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Sturdy
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin

Originally a CB set but I don't like the limitations of CB much so I changed it around, Donphan has served me pretty well with walling. Fire Fang is for Bronzong and Rapid SPin is to get rid of those pesky spikes.

Starmie @Choice Specs
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EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
Ability: Natural Cure
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Psychic

All out SS Starmie, I went ahead and kept the Choice Specs on this one as it actually helped.

Infernape @Life Orb
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EVs: 24 Atk / 252 SAtk / 232 Spd
Naive Nature
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Hidden Power [Ice]

Standard mixed sweeper Infernape, nothing to say here. I use it for revenge killing sometimes too.

Weezing @Black Sludge
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EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SAtk
Bold Nature
-Sludge Bomb
-Fire Blast
-Haze
-Pain Split

And Weezing is used as support and for Hazing. Nothing interesting here.


That is my team, The ratio of wins to losses for this team is about 2:1.
I personally like this team as it is fun to use and hasn't let me down as much as my other teams.
And by the way,
I'm TruetoCheese on Netbattle.
 
hey, pretty solid looking team.. the first thing that jumps out at me is the lefties on yanmega.. hes pretty frail, i would probably play a sash on him, so he could stick around an extra turn to wreak havoc with bug buzz. other than that, pretty solid base for a great team. gl mang
 
W00t someone else from Netbattle!!! I'm THS Bulldog. Anyway, onto the rate.

Lefties on Yanmega is meh. I think you would see more benefit out of Life Orb considering Yanmega's defenses. Hypnosis has terrible accuracy and would be better replaced by a Hidden Power, Fire or Ground, since your Breloom won't be able to setup if Yanmega has already activated Sleep Clause.

I would put Stealth Rock > Fire Fang on Donphan as your team could really use some Rocks. Fire Fang won't be doing enough to Bronzong to worry it anyway.

I think Starmie would do better with a Choice Scarf. It would give you a way to revenge Jolteon who can 1 or 2HKO everyone on your team and you can't expect Yanmega to stay around for to long after the opening turns. Life Orb Starmie is also a threat but your own Starmie can speed tie and hopefully Yanmega will still be around.

I'm assuming you meant Focus Punch on Beloom.

The biggest threat, however, appears to be Agility SubPetaya Empoleon. After the Petaya boost it can OHKO everyone on your team. Scarfing Starmie would also give you a way of revenging Empoleon.

I think Donphan could be replaced but I'm not sure who to replace him with atm.
 
There are a couple changes that I think might benefit you

First of all, many people expect the Spore/Punch(I believe you meant focus punch) combo, and I think you would be better off by not using the free turn from spore to punch or substitute, but to power up with swords dance. The set would look like this:

Breloom @ Toxic Orb/Life Orb(do you want extra power, or more bulk?)
Adamant
6 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spe
-Spore
-Swords Dance
-Mach Punch(a STAB priority move)
-Seed Bomb

I also agree with Bulldogs about giving starmie a choice scarf. You can even get rid of Psychic, which isn't that great of an attacking type, for Trick, which can cripple walls and get rid of your choice scarf for more coverage in late game sweeping.

The one flaw I see in this team is it has no real special wall, and after yanmega is gone, no counter for fast Psychic sweepers like Alakazam, Latias, and other starmie that might have psychic. One way you can deal with this is make Starmie a Spinner(which contradicts the choice scarf idea), which in turn makes donphan pretty much obsolete, so you can get rid of him for a special wall or tank. Some ideas would be Blissey(kind of odvious) and snorlax, which both work well with weezing for it's fighting resistance. You can also go with Vappy, who can give you wish and toxic support, but be careful against starmie with T-bolt. Bronzong is another viable option for all of his resistances.
 
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TruetoCheese said:
Hey there I'm new to competitive battling and was looking for my team to be rated. It's got its weaknesses and so forth but I want to get some advice on them.

Here they are!

Yanmega @Focus Sash / Life Orb
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EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
Ability: Speed Boost
-Bug Buzz
-Air Slash
-Protect
-Hidden Power [Ground]

Basically my lead. Its got a standard moveset and ok coverage for most leads.

HP [Ground] deals with Heatran leads and Heatran in general. Hypnosis is rather unreliable due to its accuracy and needed less since you have a reliable sleeper on the team anyway. Focus Sash or Life Orb would be better hold items for Yanmega too. It won't be taking many hits.

Breloom @Toxic Orb
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EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Poison Heal
-Focus Punch
-Leech Seed
-Spore
-Substitute

She(Ya it's a girl.) takes down others slowly but also keeps most of her HP intact due to poison heal+toxic orb along with leech seed and spore.

Focus Blast is meant to be Focus Punch right?


Donphan @Life Orb
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EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Sturdy
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin

Originally a CB set but I don't like the limitations of CB much so I changed it around, Donphan has served me pretty well with walling. Fire Fang is for Bronzong and Rapid SPin is to get rid of those pesky spikes.

Stealth Rock would benefit this team as much as it would for any other team since it will limit Stealth Rock weak Pokemon's switch-ins. Especially ones that don't have an instant recovery move.

Starmie @ Choice Scarf
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EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid / Modest Nature
Ability: Natural Cure
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Psychic

All out SS Starmie, I went ahead and kept the Choice Specs on this one as it actually helped.

A Choice Scarf gives you a reliable revenge killer for your team. It will take care of Gyarados and Salamence since Choice Scarf Starmie will outspeed them after they have Dragon Danced once and score easy OHKOs on them with Thunderbolt and Ice Beam respectively. You can keep a Timid Nature if outspeeding all Gengar variants but if power is a problem, Modest Choice Scarf Starmie will still outspeed Mence and Gyarados after they have a Dragon Dance behind them. It will also take care of AgilitySubPetaya Empoleon as someone else mentioned who is a threat to this team as well since you have no other way of taking it out after an Agility.

Infernape @Life Orb
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EVs: 24 Atk / 252 SAtk / 232 Spd
Naive Nature
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Hidden Power [Ice]

Standard mixed sweeper Infernape, nothing to say here. I use it for revenge killing sometimes too.

It's fine.

Weezing @Black Sludge
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EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SAtk
Bold Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Fire Blast
-Haze
-Pain Split

And Weezing is used as support and for Hazing. Nothing interesting here.

Despite being STABed, Sludge Bomb isn't really that great for Weezing. Fire Blast covers the Grass Types it hits already as well as Steel Types. Thunderbolt will benefit you more since it will allow you to take Gyarados easier since you can't burn it reliably since you decided to forego Will-O-Wisp. Thunderbolt will easily 2HKO most Gyarados variants.

That is my team, The ratio of wins to losses for this team is about 2:1.
I personally like this team as it is fun to use and hasn't let me down as much as my other teams.
And by the way,
I'm TruetoCheese on Netbattle.
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Suggestions bolded. Hope they help. Can't really see any glaring weaknesses outside of what has already been mentioned.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. I did change some things like the Choice Scarf Starmie and Yanmega's Hidden Power(along with the Focus Sash). I've also decided to take the Swords Dance Breloom and ya Focus Blast was supposed to be Punch :) Sorry.Heh.
Just one thing, do you guys think that Forretress would e a good replacement for Donphan as it can wall along with spin and spike too?

Oh yeah Bulldogs which server are you on on NB? I'm always on DrillPeck
 
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Donphan might want SR. Focus punch is for breloom and give starmie something other than psychic. Weezing wants T-bolt and maybe toxic or wow.
 
Starmie wants Trick over Psychic. Psychic gets terrible coverage anyway. You could also go for Grass Knot.

You can also consider Hydro Pump over Surf. Even though the accuracy is shaky, it's well worth the boost from Specs whenever it hits.

imo, Timid + Specs pair better than Modest + Specs. But hey, it's up to you, kiddo.
 
Sorry I can't control myself anymore

Starmie wants Trick not Psychic Trick.

Secondly why wouldn't you edit your original post and put Choice Scarfs over Specs it is VERY confusing.

Starmie wants Trick because of a few reasons one mainly being Blissey. Blissey comes in Trick it useless crippled Blissey.

;107;
 
trick can be risky though u may end up with an iron ball or lagging tail..... or another choice item which is completely screwy.
 
Name one Pokemon that consistently holds those items in standard play.
 
I'm already fine with Starmie and I don't want to change it anymore. But instead I'm looking for a replacement for Weezing as it is being outclassed by others, I'm considering Gliscor because of it's higher defense, better immunities and also a good healing move.
Blackace sorry if it is confusing you but I will redo my first post once I have finished tweaking my team and testing it out.
 
Glisocr is an excellent Pokemon and will give you a surefire counter to Lucario.
 
I like to use gliscor as a wall/baton passer. Mine has swords dance or rock polish (whatever is going to benefit me more), baton pass, aerial ace(people usually expect earthquake), and roost. It has worked great for me and you could even use an all out passer by foregoing healing, and using that slot to put in whatever boost you didn't have, so you can boost speed and attack. if your gonna use gliscor, i would recommend a partner that can use the boosts(if your gonna use a baton passing gliscor) and/or be able to take the ice/water attacks that are often directed at him. Your Starmie could work pretty good because it resists both those attacks, and can take out the bulky waters that plague Gliscor, along with all the other physically defensive pokemon drawn to gliscor like hippowdon. Blastoise and Suicune could also work with the right moveset, but starmie would be easier because it's already on your team.
 
If you're gonna go for Lefties on Yanmega, you're probably better off with going for a bulkier spread. With 86/86/56 defenses, Yanmega can take a hit on the physical side quite well. 104 Def / 252 SpA / 152 Spe lets you live through a Metagross' Meteor Mash and Bullet Punch. It also just gives general bulk.
 
I've decided to use Gliscor as a wall, it does help and has good synergy with Starmie. Gingbino11, the lefties have been changed to a focus sash on Yanmega. Sorry for the confusion.
Also
To anyone reading this, the first post is not accurate anymore as i have changed Pokemon and a few items.
 
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