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Step 1. A gen6ish level size. Aka 450ish Pokemon at least. In theory we should see the total Pokemon count reach 900, hopefully more like 925-935. So a regional Dex that's around half that size is important to me.
Step 2. More even distribution of Pokemon pulled from each region. New gen8 Pokemon should be the larger count. Then allow the remaining count to be split relatively evenly from all previous regions.
I'm thinking a 400 species dex composed of five sub-dexes and 25 species which will appear in all of the sub-dexes. What I'm hoping is a 500 species dex with 100 unique species for each sub-dex.
Edit (31.01.2019): Just as a source, here's a list of species that logically should appear here:
Species that haven't reappeared before:
Munna-Musharna
Pidove-Tranquill-Unfezant
Blitzle-Zebstrika
Drilbur-Excadrill
Tympole-Palpitoad-Seismitoad
Sewaddle-Swadloon-Leavanny
Darumaka-Darmanitan
Maractus
Yamask-Cofagrigus
Joltik-Galvantula
Klink-Klang-Klinklang
Tynamo-Eelektrik-Eelektross
Bouffalant
Bunnelby-Diggersby
Scatterbug-Spewpa-Vivillon
Skiddo-Gogoat
Espurr-Meowstic
Honedge-Doublade-Aegislash
Spritzee-Aromatisse
Swirlix-Slurpuff
Binacle-Barbaracle
Helioptile-Heliolisk
Pumpkaboo-Gourgeist
Bergmite-Avalugg
Species that reappeared once:
Teddiursa-Ursaring (does not appear in Kanto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Lotad-Lombre-Ludicolo (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Starly-Staravia-Staraptor (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Burmy-Wormadam-Mothim (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Bidoof-Bibarel (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Pachirisu (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Bronzor-Bronzong (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Chatot (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Stunky-Skuntank (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Snover-Abomasnow (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Hippopotas-Hippowdon (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Rotom (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, New Unova or Alola Dexes)
Patrat-Watchog (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Purrloin-Liepard (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Woobat-Swoobat (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Timburr-Gurdurr-Conkeldurr (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Throh (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Sawk (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Dwebble-Crustle (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Sigilyph (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Foongus-Amoonguss (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Karrablast-Escavalier (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Shelmet-Accelgor (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Solosis-Duosion-Reuniclus (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Gothita-Gothorita-Gothitelle (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Stunfisk (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Litwick-Lampent-Chandelure (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Cubchoo-Beartic (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Heatmor (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Durant (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Cryogonal (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Deino-Zweilous-Hydreigon (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Ferroseed-Ferrothorn (does not appear in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh or Alola Dexes)
Venonat-Venomoth(does not appear in Hoenn, Sinnoh or New Unova, Kalos, Alola Dexes)
Krabby-Kingler(does not appear in Hoenn, Sinnoh or New Unova, Kalos, Alola Dexes)
(Tyrogue-)Hitmonchan-Hitmonlee(-Hitmontop)(does not appear in Hoenn, Sinnoh or New Unova, Kalos, Alola Dexes)
Mew(does not appear in Hoenn, Sinnoh or New Unova, Kalos, Alola Dexes)
Phanpy-Donphan(does not appear in Kanto, Sinnoh or New Unova, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Unown(does not appear in Kanto, Hoenn or New Unova, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Togepi-Togetic(-Togekiss)(does not appear in Kanto, Hoenn or New Unova, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Duskull-Dusclops(-Dusknoir)(does not appear in Kanto, Johto or New Unova, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Sunkern-Sunflora(does not appear in Kanto, Hoenn or Sinnoh, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Numel-Camerupt(does not appear in Kanto, Johto or Sinnoh, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Spheal-Sealeo-Walrein(does not appear in Kanto, Johto or Sinnoh, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Slakoth-Vigoroth-Slaking(does not appear in Kanto, Johto or Sinnoh, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Fletchling-Fletchinder-Talonflame
Pancham-Pangoro
Eevee-Sylveon
Carbink
Goomy-Sliggoo-Goodra
Klefki
Phantump-Trevenant
Zygarde
Species that don't appear in Kalos or Alola dexes:
Koffing-Weezing(does not appear in Sinnoh Dex, Kalos Dex or Alola Dex)
Tangela(-Tangrowth)(does not appear in Hoenn Dex, Kalos Dex or Alola Dex)
Ponyta-Rapidash(does not appear in Hoenn or New Unova, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
Girafarig(does not appear in Kanto or New Unova, Kalos or Alola Dexes)
I'm thinking a 400 species dex composed of five sub-dexes and 25 species which will appear in all of the sub-dexes. What I'm hoping is a 500 species dex with 100 unique species for each sub-dex.
Can we get a Dolphin Pokemon now pleeeeeease? (I will never give up)
Anyway. Depends where the region is situated, I guess. If it's nearby any previous regions then I don't mind so many returning Pokemon but if it is somewhere real far from any others I'd like to see the vast majority of the 'dex made up all new 'mons. Like they did with Black/White even if it means re-hashing a bunch. The few that do return can be explained the same way as Alola. Migration and new regional-formes. If they include day/night, seasons and weather conditions along with other mechanics and raise the amount of Pokemon that can be found in any one place then you could fit quite a lot in a vastly larger new region.
Think we should be looking for about 500 overall in the regional dex. Mostly brand new, some returning favourites and some new regional formes.
AND HOPE THEY GIVE US BACK THE NATIONAL 'DEX! (Even if we have to wait for a D/P/Pl remake game to include it)
I think they definitely need a huge regional dex, 450 for Kalos was amazing, it felt like every time I went anywhere, new Pokemon I didnt know were in that area showed up, and it made everything so much more alive. Since there was so many Pokemon, I always liked the sense of discovery whenever there was a truly new one hidden there.
In contrast, Sun and Moons dex was pretty tiny, to the point where I trouble even settling on a full team of 6, thankfully USUM was much better in that regard, but the actual distribution still wasnt as good as Kalos, which I think makes a huge difference.
The new region is probably gonna be much bigger than anything we've seen so far, so I think 500 atleast is a good bet.
Yeah, I'm definitely expecting a huge regional Pokédex, with 500 Pokémon being in it at the most. Since USUM had 400 Pokémon in its Alola Pokédex, I think it would be a fair start to have 450 in it, which I think will be the most likely outcome, with around 5 sub-Dexes. I'm also hoping for having all of the new Pokémon with an even balance of Pokémon from the previous generations.
I'd like it to be as large as Kalos Dex, with Pokemon like Helioptile, Lanturn, Ampharos, Volcarona, Kingdra, Golisopod, Pinsir, Durant, Flygon, Golurk, Jellicent, Qwilfish, Swanna, and Sharpedo. I definitely want them to make National Dex available in-game again, too.
I'd like Generation 8 to introduce a cute, female-only, Mosquito. Any absorbing moves would increase its' Defense & Special Defense and decrease Speed by one stage.
What if we got a psuedo dragon that has a split Evo at the end?
Like first stage is pure dragon. Second stage is either (Dragon/Grass, Dragon/Fire, or Dragon/Water) but it still the same Pokemon, and the final stage is each a unique Pokemon with the previous stages types.
If you hate the Pan/Since trio try to not hate this name, it's just to show what I'm talking about.
Not sure what the reason for it be, or the Evo methods. But it be fun for us to finally get a psuedo dragon with the starter types, and since it be tough to pick just one, give us a fun and unique pseuedo line.
There's a few that I missed but I'll put them soon.
Edit(27.02.2019): Put the list under spoilers, it will grow. This is for the very first trailer.
Edit 2(28.02.2019): Unconfirmed Counterpart addendum:
Permanent counterparts:
Vullaby
[*]Mandibuzz(Gender counterparts of Rufflet-line)
Throh (Version counterpart to Sawk)
Weedle
Kakuna
Beedrill(Former version counterparts to Butterfree in Gen 5)
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur(Starter counterpart to Charizard)
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise(Starter counterpart to Charizard)
Shelmet
Accelgor (Trade counterpart to Karrablast-line)
Version counterparts:
Bagon
Shelgon
Salamence (Former version counterparts of Larvitar-line in D/P).
Aron
Lairon
Aggron (Former version counterparts of Larvitar-line in X/Y).
Trubbish
Garbodor (Former version counterparts of Minccino-line in B2/W2).
Baltoy
[*]Claydol (Version counterpart to Golurk in US/UM)
Sableye (Version counterpart to Mawile in R/S/OR/AS)
Petilil (Version counterpart to Cottonee in B/W/B2/W2)
Lilligant (Version counterpart to Whimsicott in B/W/B2/W2)
Mime Jr. (Version counterpart to Bonsly in D/P/B2/W2)
Mr. Mime (Version counterpart to Sudowoodo in D/P/B2/W2)
Bellsprout
Victreebel (Version counterparts to Oddish-line)
Weepinbell
Spritzee
Aromatisse (Version counterparts to Swirlix-line)
Mankey
Primeape (Version counterparts to Meowth-line)
Drampa (Version counterpart to Turtonator)
Edit(05.06.2019): Revealed Pokémon from the trailer are: Steenee, Rhydon, Hippopotas, Snover, Sawk, Wobbuffet, Bewear, Stufful, Bounsweet, Frillish, Mudsdale, Golurk, Gastly, Duskull, Seismitoad, Avalugg, Milotic, Hawlucha, Mantine, Raichu, Vulpix(in the stadium's lounge) and Charizard. Rest of the direct footage shows Budew, Wynaut, Pancham, Gigalith, Growlithe, Inkay, Axew, Snorlax, Steelix, Weavile, Quagsire, Clefable, Male Meowstic, Dugtrio and Wailmer Pail. Official website's pictures confirm Diglett, Mantyke, Pangoro, Bronzor and Lanturn. Japanese website also confirms Combee.Japanese website's image showcases Goodra, Eevee, Mimikyu, Gardevoir, Trubbish, Vanillite, and Hoothoot.
Edit(07.06.2019):Octillery is shown on a building in the direct. Butterfree was also shown, but I forgot to list it.
Edit(08.06.2019): Updated counterparts.
Edit(11.06.2019): Direct showcased Wingull. Treehouse play showcased Bunnelby, Diggersby, Wingull, Metapod, Haunter, Galvantula, Machop, Machoke, Goldeen, Ludicolo, Eevee, Arcanine, Togekiss. Official English website confirms Hydreigon, Electrike, Ralts, Vespiquen and Mew.
Edit(15.06.2019): Official Chinese website showcases Noibat in the overworld in a picture.
Edit(08.07.2019): Official website confirms Jangmo-o and reconfirms Goomy. Trailer showcases Mimikyu. Japanese trailer showcases Pumpkaboo, Hakamo-o, Maractus and Hitmontop.
Edit(12.07.2019): New Japanese trailer showcases Abomasnow, Gengar, Lapras, Glalie, Ferrothorn, Toxapex and Mawile.
Edit(07.08.2019): New trailer showcases Galarian Zigzagoon, Linoone and Weezing, and Duosion. Japanese trailer also showcases Mareanie, Croagunk and Liepard.
Edit(16.08.2019): New trailer showcases Rotom Wash, Rhyperior, East Sea Gastrodon, Kommo-o, Haxorus, Conkeldurr and Machamp. Japanese trailer also showcases Golisopod and Whimsicott. English website confirms Qwilfish.
Edit(05.09.2019): New trailer showcases Vileplume, Eeveelutions and Sudowoodo. Japanese trailer showcases Claydol, Eeveelutions, Ninetales, Manectric, Boldore, Trapinch, Ditto, Togedemaru, Normal Rotom, Bronzong, Lampent, Dusknoir, Vanilluxe, Swirlix, Cherubi. Official website showcases Seaking against Cramorant. Direct footage showcases Gurdurr, Sigilyph, Litwick, Pidove, Frillish (both forms).
Edit (18.09.2019): Japanese website showcases Escavalier, and reveals Sirfetch'd, Regional Evolution of Farfetch'd. Japanese trailer showcases Gallade.
Edit (20.09.2019): Dynamax Camera website showcases Sableye, Aegislash and Ribombee.
Edit (01.10.2019): Game Informer interview confirms Throh.
Edit (05.10.2019): Live stream showcased Morelull, Shiinotic, Phantump, Cottonee and Galarian Ponyta.
Edit (14.10.2019): Download cartridges showcase Gothita and Turtonator.
Edit (15.10.2019): Download cartridges showcase Drampa and Mandibuzz.
Edit (16.10.2019): Trailer showcases Gigantamax Meowth. Official website showcases Gloom.
Edit (24.10.2019): Commercial shows Oddish, Xatu, Munna, Gardevoir, Goodra, Seedot, Chandelure, Heliolisk, Trevenant, Pyukumuku, Charjabug, Vikavolt, Shuckle, Bisharp, Octillery, Togepi, Torkoal, Slurpuff, Tympole, Wooper, Drapion, Scraggy.
Edit (08.11.2019): TV commercial showcases Klinklang.
Edit (11.11.2019): Final PV showcases Roggenrola, Doublade, Araquanid.
Im guessing that the two legendaries this time around will be wolves based on the title pictures! I'd like a big dex, Sinnoh or Kalos style big! Im usually put off that we can get other gen pokemon so early (if thats the case)
I want them to stop putting nigh on every Kanto Pokemon in the dex, and I want to see lots of Pokemon that haven't been seen in regional dexes much (Yusuf has a great list). I actually kind of preferred Alola's dex size to Kalos', because in Kalos there was something different every route and nothing really felt... native, y'know? But maybe that's just me.
I want them to stop putting nigh on every Kanto Pokemon in the dex, and I want to see lots of Pokemon that haven't been seen in regional dexes much (Yusuf has a great list). I actually kind of preferred Alola's dex size to Kalos', because in Kalos there was something different every route and nothing really felt... native, y'know? But maybe that's just me.