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Trainer Quality

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Can someone clarify this for me: did Lance, Steven, Wallace and Cynthia start out with Dratini, Beldum/ Aron, Feebas and Gible respectively instead of the normal starters from the professors?

I mean, I thought about this because of watching Paul, and how tactically and strategically firm he is, and how he began with a Pokemon that just gets heavier and heavier and harder to use and manouevre evrywhere, so he uses strategy to back up Torterra's potential movement difficulties. Ash on the other hand has small Pokemon, which, even when evolved, get faster, or slow ones like Torkoal and Snorlax which are fast anyway, so he relies less on tactics and strategy, more on hit-and-run and scroll through the moveset and use all atacks possible. Ash doesnt stick to gameplans, but improvises sometimes genius, sometimes appalling gameplans. Paul sets a plan and sticks firmly to the letter.

So, do trainers who have first Pokemon that are very difficult to train become better trainers overall? Because the champions have those like Dratini and Beldum which take forever to train and, for example, might still be a Gabite/ Metang when someone else at the same level already has a Swampert/ Charizard etc. From this, they need to learn how to use those 'weaker' Pokemon to win battles, so by the time those hard to train Pokemon, like Feebas, finally grow to their full potential, their strength is stunning.
 
Can someone clarify this for me: did Lance, Steven, Wallace and Cynthia start out with Dratini, Beldum/ Aron, Feebas and Gible respectively instead of the normal starters from the professors?

Nothing's been confirmed except that it's possible for Trainers to start off with Pokemon that are not the Starters depending on their location and own personal situation. It is possible that they didn't start off with conventional Starters. It's also possible that they did have a Starter and for one reason or another do not have it on their Team currently. It's up for the viewer to guess.

So, do trainers who have first Pokemon that are very difficult to train become better trainers overall?

Probably not. The Starter would make the journey more difficult, true, but I don't think it has a significant impact on the long run if they have the drive to become a great Trainer. While the Pokemon's ability is a part of the success of the Trainer another possibly bigger part of their success is the Trainer's own will and skill when it comes to Training their choice of Pokemon.
 
Well, since we have already seen Flint's Chimchar, I guess it's true and maybe Cynthia actually started with a Gible. We don't know if they have won in a league, so we don't know that for sure. If Steven, for example has won in the Hoenn league, maybe he beat the Hoenn Champion and became a Champion with his team, and stayed with the same team. As for the starters, it's a good question. I don't know why the didn't start with the real starters, but I think they started out with the pokemon you mentioned, no one is born perfect.
 
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I find it very weird that Wallace would start with a Feebas, that's virtually the same as a Magikarp, only difference is what they evolve into.

Maybe when Lance was a kid, he had a Super Rod and fished up a Dratini out of a river or something...

I could see that Cynthia would have found a Gible when she was a little girl and someone caught it for her.
 
But does that difficulty in raising strong Pokemon that are harder to handle make them better in the long run as trainers?

LOL at young Wallace with his Feebas :D
 
Since we have no information on these, we could only stick to what is known. As mentioned in the anime, all registered trainers who begin their journey get one of the starters of their region. So I'm pretty sure Cynthia started with one of the three Sinnoh starters since her house, or at least her grandmother's, is in Sinnoh (The home of Steve and Lance, I believe, are now specified, although it is obvious). The explanation of the fact that many characters in the anime don't have starters could be that they were not registered as a traveling trainer (as many are younger than Ash) or just began their journey with some non-starter pokemon that they met before the official registration and registered as a trainer in their midway of the journey.

But we have one good exception: Ash. Unless those trainers overslept on the first day of the journey or had other personal issues, they should have received one of the starters and are either leaving them rot in PC or have released or traded them.

As of their training, they could have just met evolved pokemons, not necessarily training them from lv1 as in the game. Ash didn't do it for the development's sake, but like the shiny Metagross in DP, if captured by an already established trainer, could head right into the league. I remember Bruno doing this in Kanto with exceptionally strong Onix, although Onix during that time didn't have an evolved form.
 
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I I recall correctly, Brock started off with an Onix and not the conventional starters. So, I suppose, when you reach the right age to become a trainer, which I think is 10, you can either go to a proper place like a professor's lab and obtain a starter, or you could have already befriended a pokemon before you turn 10 that agreed to follow you.

Alternatively, your dad/mum can be a gym leader and he/she can give you a pokemon.

Various trainers we see in the anime don't have those conventional starters, so safe to assume you can obtain others.
 
If we follow the games, then Cynthia did receive a starter and a pokedex from Prof. Rowan when she 1st went on her journey. She probably doesn't use it or we just haven't seen it yet.
 
I would imagine that they might have gotten their Pokemon a different way, from parents, grandparents (Maybe Cynthia's grandmother had a Garchomp and it bred). Lance and Clair are cousins right? Maybe their parents decided to give them a Dratini so they can start a journey.

I don't know about Gym leaders or Battle Frontiers but I would imagine that the E4 and the Champions would have started a Pokemon journey, and then beat the Champion in the region they were born in or elsewhere.

The BF/Gym Leaders probably had a journey as well and was regonized as a good trainer (Or they trained specific types and were chosen, or there's a Gym Leader's school). Since Maylene and Anabel (And apparently Jasmine as I just discovered) are quite young or look like they are Ash's age or teens they probably had to do some test and always liked that Pokemon they trained.
 
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