type changes

[Pimplup784]

I think Lugia should be water/flying or water/psychic it would fit it perfectly.

 

[RaZoR LeAf]

Sudowodo should be Rock/Grass.

If Sudowoodo was Rock/Grass it wouldn't be called Sudowoodo, it would be an entirely different pokemon. Pseudo-Wood means it imitates the characteristics of wood without actually being wood. It looks like a tree but it isn't.

Palkia should have been Steel/Dragon the same as Dialga, or something other than Water, which doesn't seem to suit it's extraterrestrial origins

Grovyle and Sceptile should have a second type, simply because the other two starters in the generation do. No idea what though (just not Dark)

Geodude, Graveler and Golem should be pure Rock. I can't see any reason why they would be part Ground type considering the first two forms are rocks.

Trapinch, Vibrava and Flygon would be better as Bug/Dragon. Trapinch starting off as just Bug. They are based on ant-lions and dragon flies, so why not?

Maybe a Fighting type for Ursaring. It looks like it would get into a brawl at any minute.

Finneon and Lumineon would stand out if they had some different second types, instead of being yet another set of boring fish pokemon (Goldeen, Seaking, Luvdisc). Water/Ghost maybe?

 

[Metal Force]

If Sudowoodo was Rock/Grass it wouldn't be called Sudowoodo, it would be an entirely different pokemon. Pseudo-Wood means it imitates the characteristics of wood without actually being wood. It looks like a tree but it isn't.

Palkia should have been Steel/Dragon the same as Dialga, or something other than Water, which doesn't seem to suit it's extraterrestrial origins

Grovyle and Sceptile should have a second type, simply because the other two starters in the generation do. No idea what though (just not Dark)

Geodude, Graveler and Golem should be pure Rock. I can't see any reason why they would be part Ground type considering the first two forms are rocks.

Trapinch, Vibrava and Flygon would be better as Bug/Dragon. Trapinch starting off as just Bug. They are based on ant-lions and dragon flies, so why not?

Maybe a Fighting type for Ursaring. It looks like it would get into a brawl at any minute.

Finneon and Lumineon would stand out if they had some different second types, instead of being yet another set of boring fish pokemon (Goldeen, Seaking, Luvdisc). Water/Ghost maybe?

My friend also agrees with you about the Palkia thing, but I think they gave it the water type, because it carrier/resembles a pearl, which is found underwater, just like what they did with Dialga, which carries a Diamond, which is a strong material, so a steel type would fit.

As for Trapinch, I totally agree, since it looks more fo a bug than ground, they could have made it Bug/Ground, but since the final is Dragon, it's better that its pure bug first, then final evo "Flygon" would be Bug/Dragon like you've said.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

My friend also agrees with you about the Palkia thing, but I think they gave it the water type, because it carrier/resembles a pearl, which is found underwater, just like what they did with Dialga, which carries a Diamond, which is a strong material, so a steel type would fit.

As for Trapinch, I totally agree, since it looks more fo a bug than ground, they could have made it Bug/Ground, but since the final is Dragon, it's better that its pure bug first, then final evo "Flygon" would be Bug/Dragon like you've said.

trapinch makes sense as part ground since it, being part ant lion, lives burried under sand....

but he should have been a ground/bug... the flygon family is even in the bug breeding group for heaven's sake... it should be a bug/dragon... nuff said

 

[Vycksta]

fixed that statement lol.

But yeah, I do agree, most of the things people suggest is completely retarded.

Ha ha, lovely fixing of the statement... definitely better than my one. xD

 

[Darkfall]

Isn't this reminiscent of an old thread...or multiple old threads. It's riddled with "this pokemon learns this attack, so it should be this type!", "this pokemon is this color, so it should be this type!", "this pokemon looks mean so it should be a Dark type!", accompanied by the standard fire/dragon charizard and water/dragon gyarados statements, "dustox/beedrill/venomoth should be flying types cuz they gots wingz and can still be hit by earthquake!!", and "why is gengar poison??".

Meeeeeeeeeeeemorieeeesss... something something in the mooonlight.

Ahh the good old days.

If I had that post in which I explained why types can't possibly be decided by movesets, i'd bring it in and hope someone reads it, realises and stops posting some deranged none constructive point purely for the sake of upping their post count.

But 'tever.


Anyway, i'd love Luxray to be an Electric/Dark type, however I can't see why it would be. The X-ray eyes just don't seem enough to me, I mean, Venonat's eyes.

Also, just waiting to see if anyone mentions Altaria, so I can pounce. Vycksta too should the mood so strike her. She knows the myth better.
Though apparently NO ONE ELSE on the forums ever can argue against Dragon Gyarados. Only Vycksta. Silly noobies.

elyvorg and Aviano should be involved. It'll be a reunion.
Can you tell i'm bored? ._.

 

[peterrab]

Solrock should have been Fire/Rock. I thought it was when I first caught one, and the Sun is really hot and stuff.

Bulbasaur just Grass, already been explained.

Blastoise looks Water/Steel and Charizard Fire/Dragon,but then the starter trios would be null and void.

Raticate and Persian, Normal/Dark, especially Raticate. Even in the card game, its newest card has a Dark attack and it looks pretty mean.

Stantler and Noctowl, Normal/Psychic, already explained.

Tauros should be Normal/Fighting, as it fights all the time and is really strong.

 

[Dark SpOOn Bender]

elyvorg and Aviano should be involved. It'll be a reunion.

Let's do that ;D

And Milotic Water/Phychic.

Why?

 

[Vycksta]

elyvorg and Aviano should be involved. It'll be a reunion.
Can you tell i'm bored? ._.

I'll supply the vodka and the cheesy music that we can sing insanely pants karaoke to. 8D

 

[Mira]

I really don't think the mythology behind Gyarados is really enough to use to trounce on anyone with the opinion that Gyarados should be Water/Dragon. Large serpents and dragons in Asian mythology and culture are near interchangeably in most instances and vary from version to version. Also take in consideration that the developers are usually pretty lenient with the Pokemon they create using real references. Ninetales is based off of the Japanese mythical Kyubi no Kitsune which is a spiritual fox entity that is said to possibly live forever. By that myth it would be more sensible to give it a psychic or ghost typing depending on how you interpret 'spiritual'. The simple fact remains that game mechanics aside, Gyarados is a practical example of a good Water/Dragon 'type' to most people. He is very Dragon like in appearance regardless of the mythology specifics. Most people would say he is the spitting image or a Chinese influenced Dragon. He also learns a wide variety of suitable Dragon type moves. His current Flying type seems to be a more of a novelty considering he really just kinda hovers and can learn absolutely NO Flying moves of any kind. Which I think might be a first for any Pokemon that can't learn at least one move of it's type. This possibly might have been influenced with the thought of making sure he wasn't too strong or with the mythology in mind or both. To me though, (and most people it seems) he does seem like a Water/Dragon if I have ever seen one. Not trying to start an argument, I just don't think it is fair to attack people on a thread that is just playing with the idea of alternative typing.

 

[Dark SpOOn Bender]

Not trying to start an argument, I just don't think it is fair to attack people on a thread that is just playing with the idea of alternative typing.

Because people come in and state the same things over and over and over again without even thinking about the reasons behind the pokemon's actual typing in the first place. Nobody is playing with the ideas in these kinds of threads since the ideas are usually as simple as "I think gyarados looks like a dragon, so it should be a dragon".

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

Because people come in and state the same things over and over and over again without even thinking about the reasons behind the pokemon's actual typing in the first place. Nobody is playing with the ideas in these kinds of threads since the ideas are usually as simple as "I think gyarados looks like a dragon, so it should be a dragon".

plain and simple, gyarados is a dragon, whether it has a dragon typing or not. It's also flying and water... with abilities not available in the first gen, it should really be a levitating water dragon, its typing would be godly, but that's what fits it better.

Just because this isn't YOUR opinion, doesn't make it wrong, and I stand by that

 

[Shine]

Stantler and Noctowl, Normal/Psychic, already explained.

While I agree on the Stantler being Normal/Psychic, I think Noctowl should be Flying/Psychic, not Flying/Normal or Normal/Psychic.

 

[Mira]

Because people come in and state the same things over and over and over again without even thinking about the reasons behind the pokemon's actual typing in the first place. Nobody is playing with the ideas in these kinds of threads since the ideas are usually as simple as "I think gyarados looks like a dragon, so it should be a dragon".

Right, I agree that there is a level to why Gyarados is part Flying. But I personally feel that Dragon still would have made just as much if not more considering that most Dragon's DO fly or are part Flying so the association with him being able to "fly" still would stand with a part Dragon typing especially if they had given him Levitate since that seems to be the only "flying" he is capable of.

Also you question judgment that may be based on Gyarados' looks. Besides appearance, though, what else would one use to judge a Pokemon's inherent typing? Surely you don't mean move set in this case considering he learns 0 Flying moves and 4 (almost half) of Dragon moves. All you have to counter the pro-Dragon people is a loosely based myth that seems to refer to him as a Dragon in most instances anyway.

It all just makes sense to me and a lot of people. Maybe the reason people come in and state the same things over and over again is because a fair amount of people see it is pretty sensible to assume that Gyarados should have been part Dragon instead of Flying. Not saying that anyone who thinks differently is wrong, just that they don't have the right to be all high and mighty and make others seem ignorant/uneducated for their opinion simply based on one myth that he is loosely based off of. I do however agree that he would have been possibly too powerful with Dragon typing but they might have been able to balance him better during development.

I believe the true reason he is Flying instead of Dragon isn't based on mythology but simply because the Dragon typing in the first generation games was supposed to be extremely rare and powerful and they had only intended there to be one evolutionary line with it as far as the first generation Pokemon are concerned (Dragonite).

 

[Dark SpOOn Bender]

Right, I agree that there is a level to why Gyarados is part Flying. But I personally feel that Dragon still would have made just as much if not more considering that most Dragon's DO fly or are part Flying so the association with him being able to "fly" still would stand with a part Dragon typing especially if they had given him Levitate since that seems to be the only "flying" he is capable of.

Oh the common "get rid of the flying type and replace it with levitate". Ever notice that gyarados can't levitate and has no reason to levitate? You must be thinking of games like PBR where pokemon like seaking and dewgong can also float in the air. Gyarados cannot levitate.

Also you question judgment that may be based on Gyarados' looks. Besides appearance, though, what else would one use to judge a Pokemon's inherent typing? Surely you don't mean move set in this case considering he learns 0 Flying moves and 4 (almost half) of Dragon moves. All you have to counter the pro-Dragon people is a loosely based myth that seems to refer to him as a Dragon in most instances anyway.

Well, first off, none of the current flying moves would really make sense on a gyarados regardless. Second of all, he isn't loosely based on the myth at all. The fact that he IS a water/flying type, evolves from a weak carp, is known as the "atrocious" pokemon that goes around destroying cities when it gets frustrated, and learns destructive moves like hydro pump, aqua tail, hyper beam in its level up movepool, as well as thunder/earthquake/fire blast also go along with the myth. Dragon Rage and Twiser are also destructive moves, so I think he learns them because of the myth and not because he was slated to be a dragon type.

It all just makes sense to me and a lot of people. Maybe the reason people come in and state the same things over and over again is because a fair amount of people see it is pretty sensible to assume that Gyarados should have been part Dragon instead of Flying. Not saying that anyone who thinks differently is wrong, just that they don't have the right to be all high and mighty and make others seem ignorant/uneducated for their opinion simply based on one myth that he is loosely based off of. I do however agree that he would have been possibly too powerful with Dragon typing but they might have been able to balance him better during development.

It's not trying to be all high-and-mighty and making others feel uneducated, this is only pokemon you know. It is just trying to explain to people the reasoning that nobody seems to accept no matter how many times it is stated because gyarados still "looks" like a dragon since it is big and scary, when his appearance is really more like a serpentine fish-like monster. Everything about him pretty much fits the myth that Vycksta constantly posts.

comments in bold.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

Right, I agree that there is a level to why Gyarados is part Flying. But I personally feel that Dragon still would have made just as much if not more considering that most Dragon's DO fly or are part Flying so the association with him being able to "fly" still would stand with a part Dragon typing especially if they had given him Levitate since that seems to be the only "flying" he is capable of.

Also you question judgment that may be based on Gyarados' looks. Besides appearance, though, what else would one use to judge a Pokemon's inherent typing? Surely you don't mean move set in this case considering he learns 0 Flying moves and 4 (almost half) of Dragon moves. All you have to counter the pro-Dragon people is a loosely based myth that seems to refer to him as a Dragon in most instances anyway.

It all just makes sense to me and a lot of people. Maybe the reason people come in and state the same things over and over again is because a fair amount of people see it is pretty sensible to assume that Gyarados should have been part Dragon instead of Flying. Not saying that anyone who thinks differently is wrong, just that they don't have the right to be all high and mighty and make others seem ignorant/uneducated for their opinion simply based on one myth that he is loosely based off of. I do however agree that he would have been possibly too powerful with Dragon typing but they might have been able to balance him better during development.

I believe the true reason he is Flying instead of Dragon isn't based on mythology but simply because the Dragon typing in the first generation games was supposed to be extremely rare and powerful and they had only intended there to be one evolutionary line with it as far as the first generation Pokemon are concerned (Dragonite).

QFT
(10 char)

 

[Biechae]

Charizard should be dragon\fire. Although it should still be able to learn Fly.

 

[~*Opal Totodile*~]

I always thought zangoose should be either pure fighting or part fighting, i don't really know why though so it's not the best idea :S

And I feel like the only person here who thinks gyarados should stay water/flying simply because it doesn't look like a dragon at all 0.o'

 

[KingT]

Octillery should have been water/poisen type

 

[Razmath]

Hey, Vycksta, if you're still checking in on this thread is there any chance you could name this mythology book? I'm quite a fan of myths and I'd love to be able to learn about more of them.

As for staying on topic and saying what types I'd like to change, there's the usual:
Luxray to Electric/Dark
Golduck to Water/Psychic

also, Torcoal to Fire/Rock couldn't hurt.