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Ask a Question Thread - READ FIRST POST

Discussion in '7th Gen' started by Pathfinder, Nov 13, 2016.

  1. Pathfinder

    Pathfinder Well-Known Member

    Ask a question about Competitive Pokémon here; be it what Pokemon would fit well on the last slot of my team, what is the best way to counter Kommo-o, what is the most effective EV spread for my Alolan Raichu, etc. If you have an actual set for a Pokemon that you want feedback on, use the Competitive Singles Rate Thread once it's up. Don't flame/insult someone if you think it is a silly question. Have fun and ask away!
     
  2. shadowF

    shadowF Well-Known Member

    When will the OU tier list be released in Pokemon Sun and Moon?
     
  3. Probably in a couple months. Gotta let the new toy syndrome wear out before we can actually see what's getting used.
     
  4. BlazingRagnarok

    BlazingRagnarok Well-Known Member

    Does anyone have a good doubles EV spread/moveset for Tapu Koko? I'm trying to build an electric terrain team, and I can't decide whether to go for physical, special, mixed, dual screens, or parafusion. Partners will either be Vikavolt with iron ball and trick room support or Xurkitree with tailwind support.
     
  5. Scherzando

    Scherzando scare-TZAN-doe

    Not exactly a competitive question but I don't know where else to ask. Since they kinda forced the Tapu Koko encounter on you with no chance to save beforehand, and I had no way to induce status on it to catch it, I had to run away. Can I still SR for a good nature on the second encounter or will its nature be fixed now?

    EDIT:
    Okay cool, thanks!
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2016
  6. BlazingRagnarok

    BlazingRagnarok Well-Known Member

    It's nature isn't fixed until it's caught. I KO'd it during the first encounter, and SR'd the second until I got my naïve one.
     
  7. shadowF

    shadowF Well-Known Member

    So I want to use the Litten that I start in my journey with for competitive battling. What nature will it be best to SR for? (note that it will be with its blaze ability).
     
  8. KillerDraco

    KillerDraco The Enforcer Staff Member Super Mod

    Adamant.

    Also worth noting is that the Gen 7 starters' HA's are not available at this time, so you've got no choice but for it to have Blaze.
     
  9. shadowF

    shadowF Well-Known Member

    Sweet! Do you know what moveset would be best for Incineroar plus the item it will hold as well?
     
  10. Lugiafan49

    Lugiafan49 New Member

    Just a General question about EV training? What do you do if you face a pokemon you know gives an EP that you do not want?
    An example would be purely hypothetical you want to train attack but encounter a Blissey. do you just run or do you need to use Pomeg berries to reset the unwanted EV?
    Just want to be sure
     
  11. KillerDraco

    KillerDraco The Enforcer Staff Member Super Mod

    Flare Blitz / Darkest Lariat / Cross Chop / U-Turn with Choice Band or Life Orb to make it a wallbreaker.

    In general, you don't really EV train competitively viable Pokemon in your initial playthrough of the game, since you have limited access to specific resources needed to EV train (Power items, fewer Pokemon available, etc.)

    Once you're done with the main game and focusing specifically on EV training, then you run from anything that doesn't give you the EVs you want.
     
  12. BlazingRagnarok

    BlazingRagnarok Well-Known Member

    I think he's talking about using SOS when another species of pokemon appears, in which case running is the only option to avoid extra EVs. Alternately, he could allow whatever he's trying to train be KO'd. I remember training for defense in HG in an area with lots of Gravelers accompanied by mean look-using Golbats, so I had to allow a few knockouts to avoid speed EVs.
     
  13. Novembre

    Novembre The Demon Cat

    What is the better for EV if I want my Pokémon take hits less hard: max HP or max Defense/Special Defense? For exemple, I want to use Mimikyu. As it has a decent Special Defense (105 BS), I thought to max its Special Defense, but I saw like two or three videos where people tell to max its HP. But its HP are bad (55 BS) so I'm pretty confused about that.
     
  14. BlazingRagnarok

    BlazingRagnarok Well-Known Member

    The thing to remember about EPs is that they provide a flat stat boost, which gives a more pronounced effect on lower stats. As a result, defensive pokemon with low HP and high def/sp. def benefit much more from training in HP. Mimikyu without HP investment has 130 HP at level 50, but it has 162 HP with full investment. Thar's almost 25% more bulk. Of course, the question of whether you want to make a defensive pokemon out of something so frail another issue entirely. 55/80/105 isn't that great even with investment.
     
  15. Novembre

    Novembre The Demon Cat

    Ok, thanks! Now I understand why people tell to max its HP.
     
  16. Xenomata

    Xenomata MS Paint Sableye

    Okay so what's the opinion on using Z Crystals competitively right now?

    Looking at the Z Moves (which have the power of Hyper Beams without the negative effects) and Z Statuses (which seem like they can be used to set up things that couldn't be done before), they seem like they would be a very useful tool to competitive players, but I'm not really seeing people talk about them.

    Also, can anyone confirm for me (who is currently busy catching legendary pokemon) if, after the Z attack/status is used if the Z Crystal is "removed" from the pokemon, allowing for the item to be switched, Acrobatics to be powered up, etc etc.
     
  17. KillerDraco

    KillerDraco The Enforcer Staff Member Super Mod

    Z-Statuses (most notably Z-Conversion) seem to be the more viable Z-moves, while attacking Z-moves are less so. The problem with attacking Z-moves is getting enough bang for your buck considering you can only use them once per battle. I mean, most of them are comparable in power to V-create, so it's not so overwhelmingly powerful that it's necessarily going to decide a game outright.

    Also Z-Crystals are like Mega Stones in that they can't be knocked off, tricked, etc.
     
  18. BlazingRagnarok

    BlazingRagnarok Well-Known Member

    The problem that Z attacking moves share with certain mega evolutions is that they often compete for a slot with life orb or choice items and lose out on firepower. While megas have extra bulk and speed alongside new abilities to add to their appeal, Z attacking moves have almost nothing when they lose out in a firepower contest.
     
  19. Fawoosh

    Fawoosh Member

    Has anyone tested Belch in Sun and Moon? the new secondary effect states that it consumes a berry. Does that mean using the move eats the berry now, and then does the attack? Or does it work like XY still where you have to have previously eaten the berry sometime in the battle.
     
  20. Xenomata

    Xenomata MS Paint Sableye

    So what I'm getting is that people don't care for the one-time burst of power, but Z-Statuses are more used?
    Z-Conversion just sounds scary.
     

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