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Ability Speculation/Wishlist Thread

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation 8 Discussion' started by Mega Altaria, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. raichu27

    raichu27 Well-Known Member

    A special version of Intimidate and Pure Power would be nice to see.

    It would also be nice to see an ability that bypasses moves like Protect and Detect.

    I agree with this. A ice version and electric version of Blaze Kick would also be nice to see. It would make elemental kicks like we have elemental punches(e.g. Thunder Punch).
     
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  2. Fairy Queen

    Fairy Queen Queen of the Fairies

    For the special version of Pure Power, I was thinking something with the name along the lines of "Genius".
    An ability that bypasses protection should be called Pierce or Strong Horn or something.
     
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  3. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria The best Mega Evolution

    Yeah, I guess I could include more moves there but there's so many of them. It would definitely be destructive on Solar Beam too, but even though it may apply to Hyper Beam, it doesn't get used in competitive because of the recharge. But then I can see more light-based moves being introduced because of that Ability buff.

    Boomburst is pretty insane but fortunately it has a more limited distribution so if a Boomburst Pokémon gets it for some reason then it may shred other Pokémon quite easily. I guess Liquid Voice needs a buff too, like boosting the power of the moves it affects and introducing similar Abilities. Maybe there could be an Ability called Shock Waves, which changes its sound based moves to Electric-type and boosts their base power by 20%.
     
  4. paipr_christian

    paipr_christian grass type fan.

    Random ability idea time, thoughts?

    Melting Point: The users Ice attack melt from the heat of a Fire type Pokemon causing them to deal Water type damage instead (while still boosted as if an Ice type stab)
     
  5. Lucky3

    Lucky3 Well-Known Member

    They should give something like Schooling to the Unown as a hidden ability. It makes sense with their lore and it might make them useful.
     
  6. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria The best Mega Evolution

    That could make a potential Ice/Fire type do super effective damage on Fire-types even though they will take normal damage from Fire-type moves. At least that is effective against Rock too.
     
  7. paipr_christian

    paipr_christian grass type fan.

    That be fun, wonder what it's school form would end up looking like.


    .....of course even powered up it still only know Hidden Power.
     
  8. Gen82

    Gen82 Member

    I would like an ability that freezes the opponent when the attack. Sort of like Flame Body or Static.
     
  9. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria The best Mega Evolution

    I thought of a name for it.
    Cold Feel
    Has a 10% chance of freezing an opponent that attacks it with a contact move.
    I reduced the rate because the Frozen status is one of the most potent in the games.
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018 at 5:33 AM
  10. lemoncatpower

    lemoncatpower Cynical Optimist

    I always thought an interesting ability would be something like Serene Grace or the opposite of Sheer Force, it would half the power and make the effects 100% for moves with effects. Would work great for pokemon who rely on move's effects but don't have much power to begin with.

    I'd prefer if they made it that the kicks were of different elemental types than most of the punches, just to not overlap as much. Like Trop Kick is cool (needle arm isn't that widespread), they could have Tidal Kick (water) or something like that as water hasn't really been used for it. Or Creepy Kick (but lunge is sort of the kick of the bugs)
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018 at 2:05 PM
  11. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria The best Mega Evolution

    I think that would be too broken especially for a fast Pokémon that has a move that can flinch. To counteract that, it could change the chances of a secondary effect by adding 50% to it, so a move with a 30% chance of a secondary effect occurring will then have a 80% chance of it occurring.
     
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  12. lemoncatpower

    lemoncatpower Cynical Optimist

    I never thought of that lol! I could see that getting so banned, so I think you're edit is perfect. Getting put to sleep over and over or a whole team being paralyzed quickly would be really annoying too, but flinch would be the worst haha.
     
  13. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria The best Mega Evolution

    Yeah especially if that Pokémon doesn't really have any priority. To also make it less broken, the attacks would do one-third of the damage that it would otherwise normally deal.
     
  14. Zaide

    Zaide Active Member

    That's still broken, even on a slow Pokémon with terrible stats, as it could make its way into doubles in a gimmicky way (with ability copying).

    Serene Grace is the most they should go as far as increasing secondary effects chances. So if an ability like the one described were to make its way into the game, I don't see it adding more than 20% chance, must to differentiate it from Serene Grace by making 10% secondary effects a 30%.

    Just to make sure I understand, the way it would work is if a pokémon with that ability uses an ice-type move on a fire type pokémon, it would become a water type move? If so, that's pretty cool.
    If they keep the freeze status as it is, please no. If they make it a tad less potent, like they did with paralysis and burn recently, I wouldn't mind it. Always thought that there should at least be an incremental thawing, rather than leaving it to RNG. (Turn 1 : Can't move, Turn 2 : Can use moves requiring a target, but stats at ~25%, Turn 3 : Can use moves requiring a target, but stats at 50%/, Turn 4 : Thaw - you know, something like that).

    As for another idea, I think it would be pretty cool to have a Pokémon that can copy the ability of its first encounter permanently - well abilities that can be copied, so no Wonder Guard, Stance Change, etc.). The Smeargle of Abilities. Except it wouldn't be Smeargle, because Prankster Smeargle would be broken as hell.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2018 at 11:00 AM
  15. Mega Altaria

    Mega Altaria The best Mega Evolution

    I came up with that with the Singles meta in mind where Trick Room isn't as common. One way to nerf it is the Pokémon is also unable to use status moves and that this Ability does not affect moves that inflict status as a secondary effect, where the Pokémon will not be able to defend itself using Protect or to heal itself using recovery moves and the Pokémon won't be able to stall out with status as efficiently and it will have to rely on other Pokémon and hazards to do the job.
     

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