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a developing theme

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cazatron

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now that ash officially has a gible, has anyone else noticed a theme developing, he already has two final form (of three) powerhouse that resemble dragons; sceptile and charizard, if gible evolves twice into garchomp that'll make three, and if totodile returns for the HGSS battle frontier and evolves the whole way that will make four final form dragon-esque powerhouses, if this theme does come to fruition, what do you think the next likely candidate would be?
 
I have no idea why people always say that Sceptile and Feraligatr deserve to be counted as Dragon-ish Pokemon - because they really aren't. As for the newly caught Gible, I doubt it will reach its final evolved form anyway. And I hate Pokepatterns.
 
I'm still reeling from a main character having a dragon type at all. Anyway - no I dont think Gible will fully evolve, I'd be surprised if it even became a Gabite.
 
to be honest i think the limit will be gabite but remember, it's a hypothetical so you know... contribute
 
cazatron said:
now that ash officially has a gible, has anyone else noticed a theme developing, he already has two final form (of three) powerhouse that resemble dragons; sceptile and charizard, if gible evolves twice into garchomp that'll make three, and if totodile returns for the HGSS battle frontier and evolves the whole way that will make four final form dragon-esque powerhouses, if this theme does come to fruition, what do you think the next likely candidate would be?
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I dont think you can really class Sceptile as dragonish at all. Even if you do, i doubt the writers are just giving Ash fully evolved types based on them looking like a dragon, otherwise he'd have had a dragon type before now.

I think they just picked Sceptile and Charizard to evolve as their the fastest which is Ash's speciality.
 
Regardless of any breeding groups, how in the world does Sceptile and Feraligatr look anything like a Dragon?

Charizard, yes. Garchomp... it's debatable, but definatly not Sceptile and Feraligatr.
 
I’ve thought of this theme for years too, Totodile’s lack of evolution does kind of screw with the theory but if it did return and evolve, the pattern would be in place. Besides, even if they’re not technically dragons, they’re all reptilian and the first three generations all had a reptile starter; the 4th gen was the first to be without one, which is may be why Gible has been caught to continue with such a theme.
 
I don't think that there really is a pattern. Esecially since Gible would most likely stay as Gabite and that we don't know for a fact that Totodile will eventually fully evolve or evolve at all.
 
If Ash will have a Garchomp it will be the powerhouse, because Staraptor isn't. actually, Ash has no powerhouse now. he can only get Torterra or Infernape, i don't think he will have a Garchomp.
 
Ash-kid said:
If Ash will have a Garchomp it will be the powerhouse, because Staraptor isn't. actually, Ash has no powerhouse now. he can only get Torterra or Infernape, i don't think he will have a Garchomp.
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That's not what this is about. It's about what the original poster think is a developing pattern.
 
I hope Ash doesn't get a Garchomp. Either it stays a Gible/Gabite or gets the Larvitar treatment. All this time Ash has never been given a (potential) uber or Dragon pokemon (which in the show are CRAZY! powerful) and now he gets both.

I say this because Ash will probabloy lose in Sinnoh League and his Garchomp will seem gimped. What's the point people will say?

Or I could be talking out of my *** and Ash gets Garchomp and actually wins the league
 
I think he means the Egg group:
Feraligatr, Sceptile, Charizard and Garchomp are all in the Dragon egg group, and so is Milotic, Arbok, Dragonite, etc.

I think we will either have Ash evolving Monferno or Gible or maybe both before the Pokémon League. But Gabite will only evolve again in the end of the Battle Frontier (if we get to have one)
 
Just because a Pokémon os really strong (Sceptile and Feraligatr, for example) doesn't mean it's dragon-ish, or as strong as a Garchomp. Charizard is debatable though.

About Gible, it will even take a longtime for it to get to a Gabite and being a Gabite is enough. Gible is actually strong now(one of the reasons is because it knows Draco Meteor, the strongest Dragon Type move).
 
Alfonso said:
Regardless of any breeding groups, how in the world does Sceptile and Feraligatr look anything like a Dragon?

Charizard, yes. Garchomp... it's debatable, but definatly not Sceptile and Feraligatr.
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I think the typical (..ly wrong) thought process goes...

Reptilian = Saurian = Dragon = Dragon-type

Trouble is, a good deal of Pokemon have qualities of both, so people want to match them together for whatever reason. In some areas I'm inclined to agree, but in the opposite way by taking away the Dragon-type from Pokemon who don't look remotely'Dragonish'. Good candidates include Vibrava and Altaria.

As for the patterns. Patterns, patterns, patterns. I don't believe in them. I do, however, subscribe to coincidences. Like, for instance, its been a coincidence that Ash has had Monkeys, Crustaceans, and Turtles as major players in his team multiple times.
 
Sceptile looks more Dragon to me than Feraligatr. Even if Sceptile was in some other egg group it resembles Garchomp and its face kind of look like a Dragon or Lizard(cause it is a Gecko). But I go with V faction theory of reptilian to dragon type.
 
IMPERIAL DRAGON said:
I’ve thought of this theme for years too, Totodile’s lack of evolution does kind of screw with the theory but if it did return and evolve, the pattern would be in place. Besides, even if they’re not technically dragons, they’re all reptilian and the first three generations all had a reptile starter; the 4th gen was the first to be without one, which is may be why Gible has been caught to continue with such a theme.
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You do of course realize that turtles are reptiles, right? Just because it isn't a lizard or crocodilian doesn't mean it doesn't count as a reptile.
I definately can see Ash with a Gabite, but probably not Garchomp. That's just not the writers' style to give one of the main group anything with that kind of firepower; and if they do, they have the pokemon become dissobediant and get Oaked or something like that as soon as they start to listen to their trainers.
 
True, but in terms of reptilian features closest to dragons/ dinosaurs, the first three generations had a starter of each type that is lizard like. Fire salamander, water crocodile and grass gecko. Just kind of interesting how the lizard looking starters were the only reoccurring theme in appearance, if it applied to the other starters we would have had a fire turtle (we have one but it isn’t a starter) and we had a grass turtle a generation late, then a water & fire dinosaur.

Its all open to interpretation, I guess people are just looking for some method of prediction beyond the blatantly obvious capture/ evolution speculation. That’s why people are perhaps thinking Gible is making up for the lack of lizard like 4th gen starter.
 
This arc has been a jump from the others so who can really say for sure! ?
 
I see Charizard dragon-ish but not Sceptile and Feraligatr. Horsea, Seadra, and Gyarados look more dragon-ish than those 2. I don't see a developing theme here sorry.
 
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