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I can finally post again. But now I got to use Internett Explorer 8, which kinda sucks, if you ask me. Only way to post on this forum, but whatever. To the real question.

As most of us know, Team Rocket didn't appear in BW 16. This shouldn't really be a big deal, but Team Rocket has been present in over 600 episodes or something, before finally being left out of one episode (except the first one).

So my question is this, does anybody think Team Rocket will only be present from time to time? Like they will be absent in a couple of episode before appearing?

Personally, I think Team Rocket will be absent from time to time. If they appeared in every episode after this, and then left, then wouldn't it be weird that Team Rocket missed out two episodes?

One of them being the premiere, which makes sense, and the other one a random Gym episode?

So what do you all think?
 
Sounds like Team Rocket are finally on there way to retirement from the show. I'm not sure what to think. On hand it's about time, but on the other it will feel a little odd at first since whether you liked them or not they were a big part of the show, but from what I've herd Best Wishes is doing fine without there constant presence, I wouldn't know. So they shouldn't be in every episode that way when they do appear you can look forward to what they plan on doing instead of being forced to watch them when there not needed.
 
No matter how anyone looks at it, there's no denying that up to before BW, they'd been reduced to a simple gimmick, a way for the writers to fill out an episode when they'd no idea what else to do. They still have their hardcore fans, but after 600+ episodes the fun in watching them attempting to catch Pikachu and the POTW was kinda gone.

So if they, at the expense of only seeing them once in a while, can find something to do before they're written completely off the show, I'm fine with that.
 
Yeah I think they will be appearing from the time to time. This time was probably because Ash's training & gym battle wouldn't have fit, even though the gym battle was rushed(well not really, but Tepig & Oshawott defeated their opponents in 2 hits) But yeah, Team Rocket will probably be gone in gym battle episodes, especially the later ones, but this is good, I am actually surprised they did that and first they give them a awesome plot this series and now they don't make them appear for once...:o Shocking!
 
Let's put it this way: It wasn't the first nor the last episode from which they were absent. I think the writers finally realized what needed to happen long ago. At least in the gym battles they shouldn't appear and I'm pretty sure they won't appear in gym episodes at all, for the regular episodes, let's wait and see.
 
Ash-kid said:
Let's put it this way: It wasn't the first nor the last episode from which they were absent. I think the writers finally realized what needed to happen long ago. At least in the gym battles they shouldn't appear and I'm pretty sure they won't appear in gym episodes at all, for the regular episodes, let's wait and see.
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Well, we had a 2011 preview involving them for a major plot event involving that meteorite... so I think they'll still be around for some time.

I'm kind of more anxious for Team Plasma, but that's probably just me. That, and I would like to see a confrontation between Team Rocket and Team Plasma. I dunno, just seems like something that could happen.

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I kind of like the show with them not always stealing pikachu. That was getting very old and repetitive. I do want to see them battle and see if they have other pokemon
 
I think they might appear a little bit from now on until Team Plasma starts to appear. They don't have any main reason to appear until Team Plasma comes. Their appearances haven't been that major lately anyways.
 
ignore this if im stating the obvious or unnecessary but bulbapedia says that team rocket are supposed to make an appearance in ep 17
 
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This is there last saga. That's my bet. Slowly but surely they're easing these guys out of the show.
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This. The mere fact that Giovanni is being treated like the head villain again and TR get little to no screentime and have missed an ep says a lot.

They won't change them back to their comedic selves either. This all seems like its heading to a rather obvious TR climax.
 
i think team rocket will come from time to time. even that they have had them for those 600 episodes it is obvious they are making some changes. they are replacing brock and having team rocket actually be GOOD in black and white so we will have to wait it out and see what they do
 
Just a thought, Genosect's pokedex entry says that Team Plasma altered it and added that cannon thing to it's back. Given Mewtwo's storyline that seems more up Team Rocket's ally. Maybe instead of having the two villains storylines connected like in DP (J and Team Galactic), this time there will be two (for the most part) separate storylines. Plasma and the yin yang duo and Rocket and Genosect.
 
They are probably planning something off screen. And I was surprised myself after not finding them in the episode pictures. I think there are gonna be quite a few eps without them from now on.
 
I expect them to go missing for some more episodes in BW. If it happened somewhere in the middle (Okay, 10+ episode isn't middle of course, I was trying to refer it wasn't in the first or last few episodes), it is likely to happen again.

I suspect two arcs concerning Team Plasma.

First is N with Reshiram vs Ash with Zekrom. 1st Episode already tells us of Ash's affinity with Zekrom.

Second is Team Plasma vs Team Rocket. Not counting Geechisu/Ghetis, Team Plasma's philosphy is the direct opposite of Rocket's. Which means they are the Magma/Aqua relationship (Nonono I'm not saying it will turn out as bad as Groundon vs Kyogre).

I actually see Giovanni losing this one. He might disband Team Rocket afterwards and become a "good" trainer. The trio will be erased from the main continuity then (Maybe becoming actual trainers / coordinators, maybe).

And then we will enter the third Arc. Team Plasma + Genosect vs Mewtwo + Clone Army.

Okay, I was dreaming about the third arc. But BW will be immediately ranked top if they dedicated an arc to Mewtwo vs Team Plasma. (Seriously, if that happened, I think you would rank BW as your no.1 season, wouldn't you?)
 
I for one, am glad this is happening.

They may or may not be leaving, but the fact they didn't appear for the first time in 600+ episodes, doesn't bother me too much. In fact, I'm delighted knowing they'll serve well and play a big role in the upcoming plot of the Best Wishes series. All this, Team Rocket taking their role seriously, the short appearances in each episodes, that is all leading us and foreshadowing to the future plot. So yeah, I think it's worth it. Not to mention that I love finally seeing Jessie, James and Meowth like this; like a competent evil group.
 
Meh. I like how they're handling Team Rocket now in terms of appearances. Excluding them in important episodes and generally having them interfere directly with Ash less is what people wanted for a long time. With them showing up less they can put more focus on stories that don't revolve around the same ol' song and dance.

I'm just not a fan of their new personalities, or lack thereof. If they were going to go this route and completely change them and their rosters overnight why not get rid of them in Sinnoh and just have two new Plasma grunts running around? Say they got promoted or reassigned or something.
 
I'm one of those people who think they'll be leaving, its like Brock all over agian, remember people kept saying he wouldn't leave cuz he's like a staple of the show like Ash and Pikacu. There were a lot of signs showing he was going to leave and he did.
 
thunderblade12 said:
Just a thought, Genosect's pokedex entry says that Team Plasma altered it and added that cannon thing to it's back. Given Mewtwo's storyline that seems more up Team Rocket's ally. Maybe instead of having the two villains storylines connected like in DP (J and Team Galactic), this time there will be two (for the most part) separate storylines. Plasma and the yin yang duo and Rocket and Genosect.
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All things considered, I'd love it if it went this way. After all, Giovanni might have his sights set on another potential powerhouse, and something like Genosect might just be exactly what he needed.

That, and TP definitely work better with r@m.

Only time will tell I guess... sucks, I can wait, but I don't like to :s.

C_L
 
An00bis said:
Meh. I like how they're handling Team Rocket now in terms of appearances. Excluding them in important episodes and generally having them interfere directly with Ash less is what people wanted for a long time. With them showing up less they can put more focus on stories that don't revolve around the same ol' song and dance.

I'm just not a fan of their new personalities, or lack thereof. If they were going to go this route and completely change them and their rosters overnight why not get rid of them in Sinnoh and just have two new Plasma grunts running around? Say they got promoted or reassigned or something.
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I agree completely with the second part. It's not so much that they're more serious as much as that it came so far out of left field that it's a total personality whiplash. Had it been a gradual change, yea, it would have been fine, but these are the same people who just a few episode prior we had been watching them selling snacks to spectators. In fact, they had lied about the very thing that gotten them promoted to begin with. You'd think that something like that would come out in the wash once they arrived in Isshu, but no, suddenly they're displaying skills of top agents. Where exactly were these skills the last 10 years that they were following Ash, cuz if they had that, I'd think they'd be much more of a threat. In fact the whole thing began to feel more and more forced once Best Wishes started, reaching its tip when they easily stole the meteorite using ninja-like skills.

Above all else, one thing I'd love to know that seems to only stack more and more, why did Giovanni even send JJM to Isshu when it's been made clear that he has agents who, prior to Best Wishes, would make JJM look like cosplayers in TR uniforms already stationed in Isshu. Hoenn he had them exploring there, gathering info on Team Magma and Aqua and Sinnoh, he didn't even care since he didn't even remember them, showing this wasn't considered an important assignment. But either way with what the writers are pulling with them, it may be able to slide for the new views but for everyone who actually knows the series, it doesn't quite match up.
 
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